ahmedelsakka Posted August 30, 2018 Share #401 Posted August 30, 2018 Hello, i am very new to Xpenology, thank you for the efforts, i followed the instructions to install DS3617sx img, at 1st the NAS was not detected so i used the ramdisk and it was detected. i am doing a clean install not an upgrade, when i click install it goes for a reboot with a 10 min counter, and it never comes back from that, i noticed that my NIC has no lights after the reboot, my NIC is 8111F builtin GA-H61M-S2P motherboard, and i can see it is included in the drivers extension but it does not seem to work right. i tried another usb stick the NIC worked normally till the reboot then it had no lights again, i tried altering my BOIS configuration to some sense but nothing happened, i am thinking to get a PCI NIC. any help will be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrown7815 Posted September 8, 2018 Share #402 Posted September 8, 2018 If I am have my XPEnology server on a ESXI VM, can I use this upgrade method? (since I dont use a USB loader) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedelsakka Posted September 11, 2018 Share #403 Posted September 11, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 5:51 AM, ahmedelsakka said: Hello, i am very new to Xpenology, thank you for the efforts, i followed the instructions to install DS3617sx img, at 1st the NAS was not detected so i used the ramdisk and it was detected. i am doing a clean install not an upgrade, when i click install it goes for a reboot with a 10 min counter, and it never comes back from that, i noticed that my NIC has no lights after the reboot, my NIC is 8111F builtin GA-H61M-S2P motherboard, and i can see it is included in the drivers extension but it does not seem to work right. i tried another usb stick the NIC worked normally till the reboot then it had no lights again, i tried altering my BOIS configuration to some sense but nothing happened, i am thinking to get a PCI NIC. any help will be much appreciated Hello Team, can anyone help on this, i really want to use xpenology but i am having this issue so i had to move to OMV for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share #404 Posted September 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, ahmedelsakka said: Hello Team, can anyone help on this, i really want to use xpenology but i am having this issue so i had to move to OMV for now. Try with an intel NIC. Let us know how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamzor Posted September 11, 2018 Share #405 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Hi Guys and Girls! I have a old version being DSM 6.0.2-8451 update 8 (installed like a year ago. Have not updated a single time since. Now its time to update my system to the latest possible version (I guess 6.2-23739) So do I first go through this tutorial first and then update from 6.1.x to 6.2 or is there a way to jump directly to the latest version? Also a little question about data integrity. I do have a lot of data on my NAS that I cant really backup. is there a risk to loose my data here? Im running it barebone no virtualisation. If there is risk then how can I secure my data before attempting to update (without backing up everything.. like 6TB or so..) Thanks guys! @Polanskiman Edited September 11, 2018 by Jamzor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted September 11, 2018 Share #406 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jamzor said: I have a old version being DSM 6.0.2-8451 update 8 (installed like a year ago. Have not updated a single time since. Now its time to update my system to the latest possible version (I guess 6.2-23739) So do I first go through this tutorial first and then update from 6.1.x to 6.2 or is there a way to jump directly to the latest version? Also a little question about data integrity. I do have a lot of data on my NAS that I cant really backup. is there a risk to loose my data here? Im running it barebone no virtualisation. If there is risk then how can I secure my data before attempting to update (without backing up everything.. like 6TB or so..) Why is it time to update your system to the latest possible version? The latest possible version is alpha status for XPenology. Upgrading to the current version is not yet a highly robust process and there a lot of ways for it to go wrong. Because of this, you have the risk to make your data inaccessible. If this happens and you are unable to follow recovery steps you may inadvertently lose your data. Even when upgrading works consistently on all hardware, you are unwise to attempt it without a backup. If you simply must proceed, perhaps you could attempt to duplicate your current system using a different set of drives, and a second USB stick on your existing motherboard, NIC and PCIe disk controller card (if you have one). In other words, carefully remove production drives in order, set them aside, remove your production USB. Then configure a set of test USB and disks. If you then successfully upgrade this TEST system and take careful notes, then you will know how to successfully upgrade when you reattach your original USB and disks. Edited September 11, 2018 by flyride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share #407 Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Jamzor said: Hi Guys and Girls! I have a old version being DSM 6.0.2-8451 update 8 (installed like a year ago. Have not updated a single time since. Now its time to update my system to the latest possible version (I guess 6.2-23739) So do I first go through this tutorial first and then update from 6.1.x to 6.2 or is there a way to jump directly to the latest version? Also a little question about data integrity. I do have a lot of data on my NAS that I cant really backup. is there a risk to loose my data here? Im running it barebone no virtualisation. If there is risk then how can I secure my data before attempting to update (without backing up everything.. like 6TB or so..) Thanks guys! @Polanskiman Hi, I am not sure why it is time to update your system to the latest DSM version unless you have very specific requirements. This said if you still want to upgrade just for the sake of it I would first suggest you to read the tutorial carefully and provide the information that is requested in the tutorial (see below) in case anything goes wrong. If you want some advice before proceeding then provide the hardware information as well since without that we can't help. On 9/12/2017 at 5:59 PM, Polanskiman said: 10 - You are done. If you have questions, first search the forum and/or Google then leave a comment if nothing helps. Please provide your hardware specifications (motherboard model, LAN controller, driver controller etc). Failure to prove such information will lead to the post being deleted or not answered. I would also strongly suggest you to read this sub forum as well as this Announcement as they will provide information on which DSM update you shouldn't be doing. Also read the FAQs, please. As for your data, even if for some reason the update doesn't go as planned it normally is possible to recover it but it involves some linux command lines and also involves the user not playing around with the drives following the unsuccessful update. Other than making a backup I don't see how you can secure your data. That is the exact purpose of a backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamzor Posted September 12, 2018 Share #408 Posted September 12, 2018 9 hours ago, flyride said: Why is it time to update your system to the latest possible version? The latest possible version is alpha status for XPenology. Upgrading to the current version is not yet a highly robust process and there a lot of ways for it to go wrong. Because of this, you have the risk to make your data inaccessible. If this happens and you are unable to follow recovery steps you may inadvertently lose your data. Even when upgrading works consistently on all hardware, you are unwise to attempt it without a backup. If you simply must proceed, perhaps you could attempt to duplicate your current system using a different set of drives, and a second USB stick on your existing motherboard, NIC and PCIe disk controller card (if you have one). In other words, carefully remove production drives in order, set them aside, remove your production USB. Then configure a set of test USB and disks. If you then successfully upgrade this TEST system and take careful notes, then you will know how to successfully upgrade when you reattach your original USB and disks. 2 hours ago, Polanskiman said: Hi, I am not sure why it is time to update your system to the latest DSM version unless you have very specific requirements. This said if you still want to upgrade just for the sake of it I would first suggest you to read the tutorial carefully and provide the information that is requested in the tutorial (see below) in case anything goes wrong. If you want some advice before proceeding then provide the hardware information as well since without that we can't help. I would also strongly suggest you to read this sub forum as well as this Announcement as they will provide information on which DSM update you shouldn't be doing. Also read the FAQs, please. As for your data, even if for some reason the update doesn't go as planned it normally is possible to recover it but it involves some linux command lines and also involves the user not playing around with the drives following the unsuccessful update. Other than making a backup I don't see how you can secure your data. That is the exact purpose of a backup. Hi Guys! First of thanks for quick answers! The reason I wanted to update to the latest version is just for latest features, security patches etc... But I think what Im reaching for here is to update to the latest possible stable version. Since my system is not updated in a very long time this was my thinking. Also, Im planning to start some projects here on my machine which I have not done before, earlier I just used it as a fileserver. Now Im planning to experiment with some pi-hole functions, r-sync functions, automatic snapshot functions etc. So I figured its probably wise to have a more updated system. Maybe my mindset is wrong about this? in which case if there is not so much reason to update DSM to a more modern version then I guess I dont need to do it at the moment.. But I guess I need to attempt it at some point anyway..? My hardware is: DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 8 Intel® Pentium® Processor G4560 MSI H110I PRO Intel H110 Corsair ValueSelect DDR4-2133 DIMM CL15 Single 8GB No cache disks 4 HDD's in RAID-5 but planning on adding a few more disks eventually. Maybe total of 6 in near future. Right now showing model: DS3615xs in DSM What I was thinking also was that I read some people using virtualisation like EsXi instead of the barebone version that I use.. In this case they dont need to have a backup when they update right? They just create a virtual OS and try to update it, if that works fine then it will work in production right? If this is true I wonder if its a possibility for me to try. I have read through the forum a for a while now and it looks like people are sucessfull in updating to 6.2.-23739. Also saw that announcement and I understand that I need to update my loader to continue. Thanks for all help in pointing me in the right direction guys.. I really appreciate it and all your work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share #409 Posted September 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, Jamzor said: The reason I wanted to update to the latest version is just for latest features, security patches etc... But I think what Im reaching for here is to update to the latest possible stable version. Security fixes could be a good reason but if you are using your box only in a LAN environment then not really since you are not exposing DSM to the internet. New features, like? If you can't answer that question then I suppose there is not need. Stable? As far as I am aware DSM 6.0.2 is stable like any other DSM release that comes out. 49 minutes ago, Jamzor said: Also, Im planning to start some projects here on my machine which I have not done before, earlier I just used it as a fileserver. Now Im planning to experiment with some pi-hole functions, r-sync functions, automatic snapshot functions etc. So I figured its probably wise to have a more updated system. Yes and no. It depends what you want to do. I would suggest you try first how everything works under DSM 6.0.2 then go for an update if for some reason some of those functions do no work. 54 minutes ago, Jamzor said: Maybe my mindset is wrong about this? in which case if there is not so much reason to update DSM to a more modern version then I guess I dont need to do it at the moment.. But I guess I need to attempt it at some point anyway..? You will to attempt this if there is any compelling or technical reason to do so. I know many user who still running DSM 5.2 and they are happy with it. 55 minutes ago, Jamzor said: My hardware is: DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 8 Intel® Pentium® Processor G4560 MSI H110I PRO Intel H110 Corsair ValueSelect DDR4-2133 DIMM CL15 Single 8GB No cache disks 4 HDD's in RAID-5 but planning on adding a few more disks eventually. Maybe total of 6 in near future. Right now showing model: DS3615xs in DSM I think with that hard you should be able to update to 6.1 (with loader v1.02b) or even 6.2 (with loader v1.03b). I would personally suggest you stay at DSM 6.1 at the most for the time being. 58 minutes ago, Jamzor said: What I was thinking also was that I read some people using virtualisation like EsXi instead of the barebone version that I use.. In this case they dont need to have a backup when they update right? They just create a virtual OS and try to update it, if that works fine then it will work in production right? If this is true I wonder if its a possibility for me to try. Having a VM is definitely not a replacement for a backup. Some people run VMs because they need to run several OSes or instances of DSM under the same hardware. That is the primary use of a VM and does not replace the need of having a proper backup of your data even when you rely only on a VM. Now you can also setup a VM to test new DSM or loader releases, OR you could also use a spare drive to test the same on your Baremetal. In my case I do both before applying anything to my running box. I am currently running DSM 6.1.7 and see no reason to run anything above that. In fact I didn't want to update to DSM 6.1.7. It was a mistake. I was still running DSM 6.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedelsakka Posted September 14, 2018 Share #410 Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 1:09 PM, Polanskiman said: Try with an intel NIC. Let us know how that works. Hello Man, thanks for the reply i tried to find an intel NIC here in egypt could not find it is like tplink invaded the market, anyway i thoought i could learn how to compile my card driver so i got my NIC details from the debian OS i am currently running it is "Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0" while on windows it was detected as realtik 8111F, when i cecked the supported list i found that AR8151 us supported but it is not mentioning the supported version so i felt that no hope in compiling anything, it seems like something else is the issue, i think i am going to give up but as a last hope could you check my HW specs may be it is something else Issue: My NAS gets detected but when it reboot to install, the network card just dies no lights at all Motherboard: Gigabyte H61M-S2P CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz RAM: 4096 MB DDR3 (1333 MHz) Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florinpoe Posted October 2, 2018 Share #411 Posted October 2, 2018 Hey people. I have dsm 5.2 instal on a hp 7900 slim version and I want to upgrade to 6.1 but I get this error when trying to boot from a usb stick. What I'm doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted October 2, 2018 Share #412 Posted October 2, 2018 @florinpoe It looks like your USB is not bootable, try to boot it on a different computer. btw: is there an UEFI / secure boot setting on that HP, of so you must disable it and select legacy boot from USB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optweets Posted October 9, 2018 Share #413 Posted October 9, 2018 Everything worked successfuly. I am able to now access v6.1.x but my boot screen on the machine is stuck on "screen will stop updating shortly". Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted October 9, 2018 Share #414 Posted October 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, optweets said: Everything worked successfuly. I am able to now access v6.1.x but my boot screen on the machine is stuck on "screen will stop updating shortly". Any ideas? Ok, it's written in plain text just in front of you.... The rest of the boot process is "hidden", no more output to the screen will come after that message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt-Ximo Posted October 12, 2018 Share #415 Posted October 12, 2018 Used these Tutorials and the loader of @jun. And my new server is up and running and working perfectly. But it would not have been possible without this forum and @Polanskiman help. So I wanted to say thank you very very much for everyones efforts, advice, help, suggestions, tuturials, LOADERS and more. I Used the following Build, if it helps somebody build their own Exponology server. I wanted a silent but CHEAP buid. So most of these components where older generation or in discount somewhere. Build cost 330. Asrock H110M Hepa+ 500 PSU Crucial 2400 4gb ram Intel G4400 CPU Fractal Design node 304 Black Seagate Iron wolf Nas hdd 2x Directly installed the 6.1.7.pat using the Loader from Jun. Ran on the first try, without problems. After that used the DDNS + VPN tutorial. Which didn't work at first because of port forward problems at VPN end (The coudn't/wouldn't port forward) So used the multiple gateways option. Normal external web access runs through the router gateway. The rest is routed through the VPN gateway. Not as safe as I would prefer, but it works. Again thank you very much very body. And keeping a close I for a stable version of the DSM 6.2 keep up the great work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectorr66 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #416 Posted October 20, 2018 Hey everyone, I started reading through the forums to see what I could find. I build my USB drive without an issue. I am currently on 5.2-5565. My new USB boots but then stops at booting kernel. I leave it there but never see anything on the assistant or anything. Am I supposed to see more loading in like we do on 5.2? Is there a way to run a boot in some type of debug? Thank you so much, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted October 20, 2018 Share #417 Posted October 20, 2018 @Vectorr66: what bootimage have you put on your new USB stick? What version are you trying to update to? Do you have a NIC supported by that version? In regards of "what to see" : "screen will stop updating shortly"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toivi Posted October 21, 2018 Share #418 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Hello! Everything went fine, I have found the server on the network with http://find.synology.com/ - installation went fine and after the restart ( I left it here for a couple minutes ) to come back and see it no longer detected on the network. So I ran the search again to encounter this screen: The hardware is the following: Gigabyte H97N-Wifi i3-4350T 8GB DDR3 1x500GB Seagate 2.5"HDD 1x250GB WD 2.5" HDD And I'm using the DS3617xs loader Please help me out! Edited October 22, 2018 by Polanskiman Removed link to dropbox and added picture instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alirz1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share #419 Posted October 24, 2018 Perhaps your sata port map config is incorrect? Is this a new install or are you changing boards etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_co Posted October 28, 2018 Share #420 Posted October 28, 2018 On 9/12/2017 at 12:59 PM, Polanskiman said: Below is what you need for the operation. I will assume you are doing all this under Windows 10, 8, 7 or XP. If you are on a MAC computer have a look at this post I made on how to burn the image to a USB drive and then mounting the USB drive for editing the content. The rest of the tutorial still applies. @Polanskiman Thanks for the amazing tutorial!! Just one thing, for macOS, you didn't say how to mount the partition to change the extra.lzma, just to change the grub.cfg. Could you please provide the info? Thank you very much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasMoritz Posted October 31, 2018 Share #421 Posted October 31, 2018 Hi, I have one question. I am using DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 8 on my HP Microserver Gen 8. Not I would like to update to DSM 6.1.7 but I am not sure which tutorial is the right one. Just to be safe: Is that the right one? After updating Juns Loader I would go throug the find.synology-wizard. Is that correct? Thanks a lot. Moritz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael91 Posted November 6, 2018 Share #422 Posted November 6, 2018 hello guys, I'm new to the group, I would build a xpenology but before spending some money I wanted to understand if I was able and I'm trying with an old PC, it may not be hard d isk because on the motherboard I can not change from IDE to AHCI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3000 Posted November 8, 2018 Share #423 Posted November 8, 2018 i use dsm 5.2 3615sx Version. I would upgrade to 6.2 ds918+. I succeeded clean install dsm 6.2 ds918+. But migration was faild. 1. At Second booting, Assistant sometimes found nas, sometimes not found nas. 2. it is possible to access web station, and ssh terminal connection is OK. but network setting has some problem. up down shows 0kb/s and information center did not show network. So, i think it is not about version but vender(not exactly). So, is it possible 3615sx to 918+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted November 9, 2018 Share #424 Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) @apple3000: try these steps: Activate the SSH service in DSM Connect to your Synology with an SSH client (e.g. putty) (or from Win 10, open a cmd window, run : ssh my.nas.ip (replace with the actual IP) Enter your credentials (user: admin) Change folder to root (cd /) Delete the folder (sudo rm -r .xpenoboot) If the SSH service keeps stopping, you have to be quick. Edited November 9, 2018 by bearcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberphoy Posted November 12, 2018 Share #425 Posted November 12, 2018 Having the same issue but .xpenoboot folder is not present? Is it hidden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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