wolfwood Posted November 23, 2016 Share #1426 Posted November 23, 2016 ESXi does not support VM booting from USB. You can work around the issue with "plop boot manager". Basically, you use CDROM iso as a boot drive in your VM, which then points to the USB stick. I am not sure it's worth the trouble. If you want to edit the config file on the VM, you can just do that, there's no need to use a USB image as a work around. It actually does just fine. Just create a new VM with OS Microsoft (whatever version supports EUFI), add a USB controller and USB device, enable EUFI boot in the advanced settings en have the VM boot in UEFI directly. Then just choose the USB drive as boot disk and have fun. That's what I did. I use 2 USB sticks to run everything: Bootdevice USB1 = ESXi (boots the Baremetal) Bootdevice USB2 = Synology (boots through ESXi in VM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee1971 Posted November 23, 2016 Share #1427 Posted November 23, 2016 Has anybody successfully built a Nas based on new DSM 6.0.2 loader on VMWare Workstation? Do I need an iso or img file to boot it up? Thanks a lot. Yes I did it. Check fiew post, i describes what I did. If you want your vm to autoboot, create a batch file with "vmware - x yourvmfile". I store 1 VMK / disk. So if one disk fails, i add a new one, and recreate the missing vmk Envoyé de mon SM-T700 en utilisant Tapatalk I read all your other posts but didn't see how you boot it up on VMWare Workstation. Once again, do I need an iso or just download img file to boot from it? Thanks. Sorry, i didn't mention that. The first page of this thread, there is a link for the VmWare boot (the vmware boit file). So you download this file, and open it from vmware. Then you edit the vmware device and add some disk, and your all set! Hey people, while I am hoping to hear some experience sharing regarding the problem I faced, I have been researching and came across a statement saying "USB boot is not supported in ESXi". Can someone with related knowledge confirm that?? Thanks ESXi does not support VM booting from USB. You can work around the issue with "plop boot manager". Basically, you use CDROM iso as a boot drive in your VM, which then points to the USB stick. I am not sure it's worth the trouble. If you want to edit the config file on the VM, you can just do that, there's no need to use a USB image as a work around. Dynax, great to hear your advice again! In fact I came across plop boot manager just now and got it running. Now my DSM is running as I wanted! Superb stuff that is. Main reason to use this method is that without booting from USB, I get the 50MB HDD issue I mentioned previously, and that kind of bugged me not working like a bare bone would. Though not sure if I was the only one who faced that problem with Gen8+esxi as I have not seen anyone talks about it, maybe everyone use a Gen8 with bare bone. The only niggle I still have is that when using plop boot manager I have to manually select "USB" from the menu, as any settings such as auto countdown, floppy disabling, etc would not saved (far as I understand it is due to the nature of "CD/DVDs" could not be edited and saved, hence any altered settings would not save for next boot). Would be great if there is a way to fix this small thing, perhaps edit the iso would do the trick. i will look into that anyway, but if anyone got some previous experience on this, I would greatly appreciate some words too. Cheers Envoyé de mon SM-T700 en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vk2fro Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1428 Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Hi, I also have Dell H310 in IT mode. How did you pass through disk controller to xpenology? And you can see S.M.A.R.T after the "pass through"? Are your HDDs spinning down/ sleeping now in idle time?Thanks. 3 things required for you to pass through and get smart info from the drives / have them sleep v19 firmware on the card (this is what worked for me). Don't need the bios, just the firmware. All we want is a "dumb" HBA. a vt-d capable processor (the pentium in the ML10 V2 does not support VT-d, which needs to be on in bios). Also known as "direct-path" or "direct-io". pass through of pci device in ESXI for the vm in question. i.e. I had a scsi card passed through to a windows 2008 machine (which also passed through the LTO-4 tape drive connected to it), and a usb controller and the h310 passed through to the Xpenology VM. I also passed through one or 2 ports of a 4 port intel card to each VM so they each had their own 1GbE of bandwidth instead of fiddling with virtual nics, something I'm not up to speed with yet Edited November 24, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicurean Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1429 Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) deleted. duplicate post Edited November 24, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicurean Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1430 Posted November 24, 2016 ESXi does not support VM booting from USB. You can work around the issue with "plop boot manager". Basically, you use CDROM iso as a boot drive in your VM, which then points to the USB stick. I am not sure it's worth the trouble. If you want to edit the config file on the VM, you can just do that, there's no need to use a USB image as a work around. It actually does just fine. Just create a new VM with OS Microsoft (whatever version supports EUFI), add a USB controller and USB device, enable EUFI boot in the advanced settings en have the VM boot in UEFI directly. Then just choose the USB drive as boot disk and have fun. That's what I did. I use 2 USB sticks to run everything: Bootdevice USB1 = ESXi (boots the Baremetal) Bootdevice USB2 = Synology (boots through ESXi in VM) Hi Wolfwood, Can you detail how you put the raw mapped drives into your esxi setup for this VM? Much thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicurean Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1431 Posted November 24, 2016 Does any one know how to inject Patsburg sata drivers for this loader? if it is at all possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitLocker Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1432 Posted November 24, 2016 Synology NAS GPL Source 8451branch!!! https://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/ ... 451branch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0_Klu3 Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1433 Posted November 24, 2016 Whoop, does this mean they can start working on an official bootloader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brantje Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1434 Posted November 24, 2016 Whoop, does this mean they can start working on an official bootloader? Yes =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdelli Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1435 Posted November 24, 2016 Yeeeeeeeessssssss Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugen Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1436 Posted November 24, 2016 I'd love to put the bootloader on an SD Card instead of a USB Stick. How does that work with the VID / PID values. How do I find the correct ones? And can I "clone" my USB stick to the new SD Card and it'll with (after editing the grub.cfg file ofc)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcao Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1437 Posted November 24, 2016 Synology NAS GPL Source8451branch!!! https://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/ ... 451branch/ Damn. Kernel missing. :/ It looks like there are source code packages for helper apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicknick Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1438 Posted November 24, 2016 Synology NAS GPL Source8451branch!!! https://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/ ... 451branch/ It's a good sign especially with the emails I got from Synology, however there is some bad news. Looks like the kernel is heavily stripped down to only provide driver updates. It resides in the backports file. They are using kernel 3.18.1 Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpuff Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1439 Posted November 24, 2016 I have updated my dsm to dsm 6.0.2-8451 update 3 over the internet, now i cant connect to the internet, does anyone have the same issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfwood Posted November 24, 2016 Share #1440 Posted November 24, 2016 Hi Wolfwood,Can you detail how you put the raw mapped drives into your esxi setup for this VM? Much thanks For easy reference, one of the sources I used was this youtube video: Parameters (example names): Datastore name = DSTORE Folder name = RDM Disk name = t10.ATA________WDC_WD20EARX2D00PASB0_________________________WD2DWMC4N2456242 Disk name on datastore = WD2000GB - Start with creating a folder to hold the 'direct' connections to your disk on one of the datastores: RDM - Log in on your ESXi with PuTTY - type: cd /dev/disks - type: ls -l - You'll find all drives connected listed as for example: t10.ATA________WDC_WD20EARX2D00PASB0_________________________WD2DWMC4N2456242 - Identify the drives you'll want to map as RAW LUN (note their names) - type: cd /vmfs/volumes/DSTORE/RDM (or the folder you created yourself) - type: vmkfstools -z /vmfs/devices/disks/t10.ATA________WDC_WD20EARX2D00PASB0_________________________WD2DWMC4N2456242 /vmfs/volumes/DSTORE/RDM/WD2000GB.vmdk Once all the drives are created you can go to your vSphere and you can add a disk - Add drive - Existing disk - Browse datastore to RDM folder and you'll see the created drives from above - Make sure you select Independent (enable) because of direct passthrough (and no need for snapshots etc.) and Persistant is choosen. - And repeat the steps to add drives that way. That's a quick type, but the video shows more information. Otherwise you can also check the following sites: https://www.tumfatig.net/20120226/raw-d ... s-on-esxi/ https://blog.0xbadc0de.be/archives/98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikia Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1441 Posted November 25, 2016 Those anyone knows Is it safe to update to DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 4 Regards Ikia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1442 Posted November 25, 2016 This is what I got from Synology a few days ago. And for the source code of 8451 branch don't get too excited, yet. That source code seems to be only for packages. Not kernel. Dear Sir, Thank you for contacting Synology support. After confirming with our developers, the source code for DSM 6.0.2 is estimated to be released at some point after DSM 6.1 official version is released to the public. The exact date is not known at this point as there are still bug fixes and security enhancement being added to the current version of DSM 6.0.2. Apologize for being able to provide an exact date. Please feel free to contact us again if you need further help! Best Regards, [name stripped] Synology Technical Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuma16830 Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1443 Posted November 25, 2016 Those anyone knows Is it safe to update to DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 4 Ikia I did mine by downloading the package form Synology and install it manually. The below is the link. https://usdl.synology.com/download/DSM/ ... 3615xs.pat But you need to specified your USB flash vid, pid & append SataPortMap=XX, check how to find them and type at the very first selection screen. Without the above info, I got error while installing the update 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boOmLa Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1444 Posted November 25, 2016 Those anyone knows Is it safe to update to DSM 6.0.2-8451 Update 4 Regards Ikia I upgraded my Baremetal from inside the controlpanel 3-4 days ago and everything is running just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosi Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1445 Posted November 25, 2016 Sorry for bothering! but is there any comprehensive / detailed tutorial on how to baremetal load DSM 6.x for newbies? what i did but i think i've missed something: 1º download jun loader v1.0.1 2º extracted the files 3º burn the synoboot.img using win32diskimage to a usb pen 4º tried to edit grub.cfg vid/pid of usb pen (but i can´t! mounted the usb on linux, but nothing appears) can someone please help on how to do a solid baremetal install? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzed Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1446 Posted November 25, 2016 hi all, thanks for alle your work. can i use this as stable version to update my 5.2 to update DSM 6 ? thanks a lot kind reguards masterzed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holybabel Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1447 Posted November 25, 2016 Sorry for bothering! but is there any comprehensive / detailed tutorial on how to baremetal load DSM 6.x for newbies? Maybe you can take this tutorial viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosi Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1448 Posted November 25, 2016 Sorry for bothering! but is there any comprehensive / detailed tutorial on how to baremetal load DSM 6.x for newbies? Maybe you can take this tutorial viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22100 thank you holybabel. miss that tutorial because it only mentioned migrating... will try osfmount! didn´t knew that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtiang7c0 Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1449 Posted November 25, 2016 from this link: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20216&start=1430#p79971 Sorry can only quote max. three times. Absolutely wrong. There is no need to flash anything. Simply use your NIC MAC address. Shouldn´t there always be the pair of SN with the calculated MAC? Or do you mean I can just put a generated serial number and the hardware MAC from my baremteal system in the grub.cfg and it works? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted November 25, 2016 Share #1450 Posted November 25, 2016 from this link: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20216&start=1430#p79971 Sorry can only quote max. three times. Absolutely wrong. There is no need to flash anything. Simply use your NIC MAC address. Shouldn´t there always be the pair of SN with the calculated MAC? Or do you mean I can just put a generated serial number and the hardware MAC from my baremteal system in the grub.cfg and it works? Thanks No there shouldn't unless the purpose is to fradulently use Synology's services such as Quickconnect. Using a generated s/n and your network card MAC address is enough for DSM to function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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