pocopico Posted June 28, 2022 Share #276 Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 4:09 AM, dimakv2014 said: I believe its still under development, since it uses new Architecture Openvino instead of Denverton, plus dva1622 only released for 650euro, so it will take some time for developers of redpill I you are willing to try : Please post any findings on that thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 1, 2022 Share #277 Posted July 1, 2022 В 21.06.2022 в 15:45, scfrancis сказал: Hi all, I have a problem with my Proxmox VM "SYNO_DVA3221", this one refuses to boot correctly. Summary of my PVE : Details of my VM: I tried installing a DS3622xs+, or a DS912+ without any problem, but I would need the 8 SS licenses, and the idea of virtualizing it so as not to have a dedicated machine, I rather like it. I asked myself a question, is my CPU (that of my Prox) compatible DVA3221... The worst is that I was able to install in VM and without any problem a DS3622xs+ and a DS920+, with an archi much more recent than that of my Prox, why this damn DVA3221 refuses to install... If you have any tips, I'm all ears! Thanks a lot for your help ! If I managed to install dva3221 on Celeron N2807 (Gigabyte Brix) which is not supported since its too way belowe requirements, then its not your cpu that gives you a trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted July 1, 2022 Share #278 Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 3:09 AM, dimakv2014 said: Architecture Openvino where does that come from? the files used for update are named geminilake (as th cpu used in th dva1622) https://global.download.synology.com/download/DSM/criticalupdate/update_pack/42661-2/synology_geminilake_dva1622.pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diktor Posted July 2, 2022 Share #279 Posted July 2, 2022 Hello! Experienced, tell me if I can run DVA3221 or dva1622 on J5040-ITX ? So I understand that with such a motherboard, no GPU will work? Or is it possible to put something into this motherboard for face recognition? Good. If no GPU can be installed, then can I install the system for the updated Synology SS interface and for 8 licenses? Or this board is not suitable for bootloader DVA...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted July 2, 2022 Share #280 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Diktor said: Hello! Experienced, tell me if I can run DVA3221 or dva1622 on J5040-ITX ? So I understand that with such a motherboard, no GPU will work? Or is it possible to put something into this motherboard for face recognition? Good. If no GPU can be installed, then can I install the system for the updated Synology SS interface and for 8 licenses? J5040 would be kind of ideal for dva1622 as this system uses ai ss with the intel internal gpu (original unit from synology is also gemin lake refresh but J4125) the dva3221 comes in original with a cpu that does not have a internal gpu and a nvidia gpu, so a internal gpu would be of no use und only a nvidia gpu would work for the ai stuff in ss afair dva3221 can serve 16 cams and dva1622 8 cams 1 hour ago, Diktor said: Or this board is not suitable for bootloader DVA...? you need to look closer, the tinycore rp loader does support multiple units (and there is a newer developer version too that was announced about 4 weeks ago her in the developer area you can test https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/61634-dsm-7x-loaders-and-platforms/ https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/62221-tutorial-installmigrate-to-dsm-7x-with-tinycore-redpill-tcrp-loader/ https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/62871-tinycore-redpill-loader-tcrp-development-release-09/ https://github.com/pocopico/tinycore-redpill/tree/develop there is also a new loader (should also support dva1622) https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/63486-automated-redpill-loader Edited July 2, 2022 by IG-88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diktor Posted July 5, 2022 Share #281 Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) В 27.06.2022 в 04:03, dimakv2014 сказал: 4. Unlike dva3221 it has only 2 smart AI processes at same time (1 face recognition 1 license plate) instead of 12 (because gpu is slower than nvidia) Not everything is so obvious. 1 face recognition = 2 tasks. How many Face Recognition and Deep Video Analytics tasks can I use? Edited July 5, 2022 by Diktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 5, 2022 Share #282 Posted July 5, 2022 3 часа назад, Diktor сказал: Not everything is so obvious. 1 face recognition = 2 tasks. How many Face Recognition and Deep Video Analytics tasks can I use? Thanks for clearing that up, so basicaly dva3221 can have 6 cameras on face recognition while dva1622 only 1 camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 5, 2022 Share #283 Posted July 5, 2022 В 02.07.2022 в 01:54, IG-88 сказал: where does that come from? the files used for update are named geminilake (as th cpu used in th dva1622) https://global.download.synology.com/download/DSM/criticalupdate/update_pack/42661-2/synology_geminilake_dva1622.pat Sorry for missleading, its indeed Geminilake cpu, but Surveillance Station.spk says Openvino SurveillanceStation-x86_64-9.0.0-7660_openvino.spk, thats where it comes from. My mistake ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 11, 2022 Share #284 Posted July 11, 2022 As mentioned, DVA3221 does not start on my AMD FX 8300 system. It does however boot DS3622xs just fine. May I assume the CPU is missing some instructions, the platform ist just too old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriliars3 Posted July 11, 2022 Share #285 Posted July 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, error403 said: As mentioned, DVA3221 does not start on my AMD FX 8300 system. It does however boot DS3622xs just fine. May I assume the CPU is missing some instructions, the platform ist just too old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 11, 2022 Share #286 Posted July 11, 2022 11 hours ago, apriliars3 said: I know that chart. It says it should work on FX8300. But it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriliars3 Posted July 11, 2022 Share #287 Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, error403 said: I know that chart. It says it should work on FX8300. But it doesn't. Test with DVA1622 it runs. I think if runs with i3 2120 would be able to run with FX8300. But all not is so easy, Works DVA1622 with HP Microserver Gen 8 G1610T? a day of these I will try to cry a little. At least virtual with Proxmox DVA3221 works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #288 Posted July 12, 2022 DVA1622 doesn't support enough AI tasks for my needs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted July 12, 2022 Share #289 Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) I guess DVA1622 is enough for a SOHO but not enough for large scale implementations. DVA 3621 is equipped with more capable hardware. Edited July 12, 2022 by pocopico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #290 Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) wrote nonsense Edited July 12, 2022 by error403 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #291 Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) Anyone have tested dva3221 with new GTX1630? Edited July 12, 2022 by dimakv2014 R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #292 Posted July 12, 2022 10 hours ago, pocopico said: I guess DVA1622 is enough for a SOHO but not enough for large scale implementations. DVA 3621 is equipped with more capable hardware. 3621 is RackStation without AI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted July 13, 2022 Share #293 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, error403 said: 3621 is RackStation without AI? Its a typo i wanted to write DVA3221 Edited July 13, 2022 by pocopico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphée Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share #294 Posted July 13, 2022 Hello ! I left the scene some month ago... and now I will have to remember how the things work... I'm still in DSM 7.0.1-42218 baremetal (and same for DS3622xs+ proxmox) I may request some help/hints in case things changed since last time... Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted July 13, 2022 Share #295 Posted July 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Orphée said: Hello ! I left the scene some month ago... and now I will have to remember how the things work... I'm still in DSM 7.0.1-42218 baremetal (and same for DS3622xs+ proxmox) I may request some help/hints in case things changed since last time... Thank you Please PM me if you need any assistance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphée Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share #296 Posted July 13, 2022 Thanks for you help @pocopico ! Updated to DSM 7.1-42661 Update 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 13, 2022 Share #297 Posted July 13, 2022 9 hours ago, pocopico said: Its a typo i wanted to write DVA3221 Alright, thank you! Yes this is why I wanted to go with DVA3221, but my HW is too old. What a shame. FX 8300 would still be powerful enough, but it appears to be missing CPU flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 13, 2022 Share #298 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Just did gpu passthrough gtx1660 in Hyper-V (Windows 11 Host) with custom PS script, everything works, compared to baremetal in Heaven Benchmark 4.0 is only 5% loss, VM is Windows 11 as well. I am thinking about making virtual DVA3221 with gpu passthrough on Hyper-V now, but didn't find on how to create actual VM with DSM 7.1 Redpill Tinycore in hyper-v, Proxmox and Esxi are good but those hypervisors are main OS. What I am trying to accomplish is using AI features on regular every day pc with gpu-p Nvidia for dva3221 AI or Intel igpu for DVA1622 running a VM at background. Without big perfomance loss on gpu side. Plus to that its possible to install Home Assistant on top of DSM. If anyone could help with suggestions on hdd and nic type in settings of vm, since its somewhat limited and different than Vmware or Proxmox. Thanks in advance. Edited July 13, 2022 by dimakv2014 Pf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimakv2014 Posted July 15, 2022 Share #299 Posted July 15, 2022 update: converted redpill .vmdk to .vhdx with StarWind V2V Converter, added as bootable scsi in hyper-V, loaded in tinycore, ran all commands, rebooted, selected sata boot, but doesnt show anything in find.synology.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error403 Posted July 15, 2022 Share #300 Posted July 15, 2022 6 hours ago, dimakv2014 said: update: converted redpill .vmdk to .vhdx with StarWind V2V Converter, added as bootable scsi in hyper-V, loaded in tinycore, ran all commands, rebooted, selected sata boot, but doesnt show anything in find.synology.com I'm not very familiar with Hyper-V, but usually the first step is to add a serial device to the VM and have a look at the output. You then can see at which stage the boot stops. Maybe also a simple NIC problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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