mcdull Posted April 17, 2022 Share #126 Posted April 17, 2022 May I know except SS, what benefit it has to use DVA3221? I have an AMD + 1050Ti setup, and would like to see if it makes general application better than 1621+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmotk2016 Posted April 18, 2022 Share #127 Posted April 18, 2022 hi @Orphée can you tell me what kind of GTX1650 you are using, i need the exact model? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phone guy Posted April 18, 2022 Share #128 Posted April 18, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 6:25 AM, SirNoish said: Hello, I finally have the dva3221 working with the SurveillanceStation beta but I only get 2 licenses, shouldn't I get 8? or what does the number of licenses depend on? Thank you On 4/14/2022 at 6:52 AM, msy999 said: Replacing it with the dva3221 dedicated serial number shows 8. Is there a serialgen for the dva3221 in rploader? and if so, I'm guessing it does NOT activate all 8 licenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phone guy Posted April 18, 2022 Share #129 Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) On 4/16/2022 at 10:58 PM, tc2 said: I had the same problem too initially. But I managed to get away with it by make sure it won't connect to the Internet when it initialize the setup. Since this is a DVA3221 as stated as SynologyNVR, the initial setup would automatically create a SHR volume for you, and install the Surveillance Station immediately. And right at that step it checks your serial online if it's valid, if not like us it would give you a default 2 cam license only. By removing the ability to access the Internet for the initial setup, it will never checks again and you could download the Surveillance Station from Package Center and install upon. So are you saying, after installing dsm (synoIP:5000) when it reboots, deny it internet access and wait and you will get the 8 licenses? am I following you? Edited April 18, 2022 by phone guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rok1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share #130 Posted April 19, 2022 Since 3622 doesn't have quicksync capabilities, can one run DVA3221 with a 1650 as a general nas and have plex hardware decoding? I don't need the surveillance features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phone guy Posted April 19, 2022 Share #131 Posted April 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, rok1 said: Since 3622 doesn't have quicksync capabilities, can one run DVA3221 with a 1650 as a general nas and have plex hardware decoding? I don't need the surveillance features. Honestly, the whole appeal of this build is the CCTV stuff.... I would think another build (918) would be a better choice if you have a 4th gen or newer intel cpu. But hey, thats just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rok1 Posted April 19, 2022 Share #132 Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, phone guy said: Honestly, the whole appeal of this build is the CCTV stuff.... I would think another build (918) would be a better choice if you have a 4th gen or newer intel cpu. But hey, thats just me I use a 10th gen i7 8c/16t, I'd like to keep all my cpu threads 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phone guy Posted April 19, 2022 Share #133 Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, rok1 said: I use a 10th gen i7 8c/16t, I'd like to keep all my cpu threads 😀 3622 uses upto 24 so you're covered. edit: Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to talk you into or out of any build, just saying the whole idea of the dva unit as a whole is a NVR first and NAS second. Thats why they cost 5x as much. If the user not going to use surveillance station and specifically the AI of it, and is more interested in quicksync hw transcode for plex, other options are readily available in other threads. the 3622 uses upto 24 threads. Edited April 19, 2022 by phone guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merve04 Posted April 26, 2022 Share #134 Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 1:37 AM, phone guy said: 3622 uses upto 24 so you're covered. edit: Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to talk you into or out of any build, just saying the whole idea of the dva unit as a whole is a NVR first and NAS second. Thats why they cost 5x as much. If the user not going to use surveillance station and specifically the AI of it, and is more interested in quicksync hw transcode for plex, other options are readily available in other threads. the 3622 uses upto 24 threads. Its to my knowledge though that even 3622 does not support quicksync either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2 Posted April 26, 2022 Share #135 Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 6:44 PM, phone guy said: So are you saying, after installing dsm (synoIP:5000) when it reboots, deny it internet access and wait and you will get the 8 licenses? am I following you? Precisely. Deny access from the Internet as soon as the Welcome screen comes up. Once it has no Internet to access, it fails to use its DVA3221 serial key to send back Synology for validation. Once you pass the setup where it automatically creates volume and install the Surveillance Station, you will find it's got 8 license keys. Then you connect back to Internet and continue the 8 cam license. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phone guy Posted April 27, 2022 Share #136 Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 8:27 PM, merve04 said: Its to my knowledge though that even 3622 does not support quicksync either. That would be correct as the genuine DS3622xs+ uses a Xeon D-1531 cpu (LINK TO SPECS) which has no embedded gpu, which is required for hw transcode (Link to Xeon D1531 specs). Realize this model is considered a top tier device with Enterprise users as target audience, not plex streamers. For hw transcoding you would need to build DS918+ (apollolake) or DS920+ (geminilake) as these devices use intel cpu with integrated gpu with home users as a target audience, so hw transcoding is available on these builds providing your system has comparable cpu with integrated gpu and drivers are appropriately added (they should be during build). Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merve04 Posted April 30, 2022 Share #137 Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 3:26 AM, tc2 said: Precisely. Deny access from the Internet as soon as the Welcome screen comes up. Once it has no Internet to access, it fails to use its DVA3221 serial key to send back Synology for validation. Once you pass the setup where it automatically creates volume and install the Surveillance Station, you will find it's got 8 license keys. Then you connect back to Internet and continue the 8 cam license. I find this strange, i used TC and did a test run building a dva3221 loader using the serial generator provided by RP, and i had 8 licenses no problem and never blocked the internet from the device. I have decided to stay on my 918 build on 6.2.3 for now as theres no work around to get hw transcoding to work with this loader or an ability to run more than 2 cameras in dsm7 with 918\920 loaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra Posted May 3, 2022 Share #138 Posted May 3, 2022 On 3/31/2022 at 4:37 PM, pocopico said: A new loader introduction is not a very difficult process (but is a very time consuming one). The issue comes when you need to create all the required supporting SW. So without a good reason to justify the workload, i wouldnt start a new loader. On top of the existing platforms (DS918+, DS3615xs and DS3617xs) People added few more for their own reason. For instance - DS1621+ is a perfect match for people with AMD cpus - DS2422+ is a good match for people with AMD cpus with larger data sets - DS3622xs+ is perfect for people with larger setups (Fibre channel provisioning etc. ) and a perfect upgrade path for DS3615xs/17xs - DS920+ is a good match for those that want to migrate from DS918+ - RS4021xs+ is a good match for people with enterprise storage needs. - DVA3221 is a perfect match for people wanting AI and more SS cams needs - FS6400 is for people with all flash storage needs So since my part of the work requires a lot of compilation/testing and maintenance and that is only for some NOT all of the platforms currently released, i would like to keep a smaller scope and only introduce a new platform when it makes sense. So the question @ultra , is what benefits will this new platform bring to the community. Thank for your reply.I have a nas,the cpu is N3150,so I want to build a suitable loader.Is there a dev complete guide about how to support a new platform?Thank u very much. @pocopico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted May 3, 2022 Share #139 Posted May 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, ultra said: Thank for your reply.I have a nas,the cpu is N3150,so I want to build a suitable loader.Is there a dev complete guide about how to support a new platform?Thank u very much. @pocopico Sorry there is no step by step guide. You have to go through the TTG Redpill repo documentation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychoboi32 Posted May 7, 2022 Share #140 Posted May 7, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 8:40 AM, rok1 said: Since 3622 doesn't have quicksync capabilities, can one run DVA3221 with a 1650 as a general nas and have plex hardware decoding? I don't need the surveillance features. You should use proxmox, Make 2 VM, First VM should be DSM with drives and second VM should have NVIDIA GPU with plain ubuntu server. You want media so just NFS share it should good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lev22885 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #141 Posted May 9, 2022 Good afternoon, I did not find the answer in this thread. Is it possible for haswell i7-4770k integrated graphics to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylamarche5382 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #142 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Yes it possible, I use hardware transcoding on my i7-4770. Just need to enable integrated graphics in BIOS. Only work on DS918+ and DS920+ loader, if it work you should have a /dev/dri folder edit: I just saw that you are using the DVA3221 loader, unfortunately it won’t work Edited May 9, 2022 by Ylamarche5382 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lev22885 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #143 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 21 минуту назад, Ylamarche5382 сказал: Yes it possible, I use hardware transcoding on my i7-4770. Just need to enable integrated graphics in BIOS. Only work on DS918+ and DS920+ loader, if it work you should have a /dev/dri folder edit: I just saw that you are using the DVA3221 loader, unfortunately it won’t work that is, with the bootloader 920+, face recognition using integrated graphics will work? Edited May 9, 2022 by lev22885 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylamarche5382 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #144 Posted May 9, 2022 it depends on which features you want, only dva3221 loader supports deep learning and GPU but yes the DS920+ supports facial recognition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lev22885 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #145 Posted May 9, 2022 2 минуты назад, Ylamarche5382 сказал: it depends on which features you want, only dva3221 loader supports deep learning and GPU but yes the DS920+ supports facial recognition Thanks for the answer. Will the 920+ bootloader be different from the ds3615x? And then at the moment there is a bootloader 3615 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lev22885 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #146 Posted May 9, 2022 3 минуты назад, Ylamarche5382 сказал: it depends on which features you want, only dva3221 loader supports deep learning and GPU but yes the DS920+ supports facial recognition And I would like to ask. What is "deep learning" for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylamarche5382 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #147 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) yes redpill has a loader for the DS3615xs+, the DS920+ loader works with a dtc config file exit: the difference between DS920+ and DS3615xs is 1. DS920+ natively support SHR 2. DS3615xs is not compatible with hardware transcoding Edited May 9, 2022 by Ylamarche5382 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylamarche5382 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #148 Posted May 9, 2022 Deep Learning is for cameras (Surveillance Station) I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lev22885 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #149 Posted May 9, 2022 1 час назад, Ylamarche5382 сказал: Deep Learning is for cameras (Surveillance Station) I think Well, I just need to connect cameras to this software. Then I understand that the functions of surveillance, face recognition will not work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ylamarche5382 Posted May 9, 2022 Share #150 Posted May 9, 2022 I believe that deep learning on the loader dvr3221 also works without a graphics card, I believe that had been said somewhere on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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