b889 Posted February 2, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 2, 2019 I am trying to install Xpenology with the bootloader v1.03b (ds3617xs) for DSM 6.2 (Baremetal). Everything goes well and i get the happy hacking screen but i cannot find it with the synology assistant. Just on a whim i tried Genesys modified bootloader v1.02b (ds3617xs) with MBR partition Table and it works perfectly fine. The problem is the DSM cannot be updated to 6.2. I am good at following instructions, but not the most technical. I have updated the HP to the latest BIOS and still have the same results. Any insights? Also the cpu is a i5-3570, 16 GB Ram installed, and intel NIC I may just stay with 6.1, but the fact that the normal loader is not working may affect further updates?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted February 3, 2019 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2019 Seems that the problem is with the Intel 82579LM NIC, it needs e1000e driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 3, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2019 Try 1.03b and DS3615 instead of DS3617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b889 Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) thanks Olegin i'll will install another intel nic and give it a try. or else i saw a video on compiling the bootloader with other drivers... i may try that. Edited February 4, 2019 by b889 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b889 Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted February 4, 2019 flyride, i tried the DS3615 as well, didn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 4, 2019 Share #6 Posted February 4, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 12:28 PM, b889 said: I may just stay with 6.1, but the fact that the normal loader is not working may affect further updates?? There is nothing wrong with 6.1.7, it's fully supported by Synology and will be for some time. I'm sure you understand you cannot upgrade the DSM to 6.2 without using 1.03b loader. That said, I can't see any reason you cannot use 1.03b and DS3615 as your chipset NIC (Q77 Intel 82579LM/82579V Gigabit Ethernet) is supported by e1000e which is what is required. 16 minutes ago, b889 said: flyride, i tried the DS3615 as well, didn't work I actually have one of these in my office that I was making ready to sell... I might try to do an install on it just to prove it works. But I think you might be making a mistake somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted February 4, 2019 Share #7 Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 10 часов назад, b889 сказал: or else i saw a video on compiling the bootloader with other drivers... i may try that. Compiled drivers don't work on 6.2.1 (syno signed own drivers, and only they can be loaded). Edited February 4, 2019 by Olegin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsoundround Posted February 4, 2019 Share #8 Posted February 4, 2019 Hello, I had the same problem with this pc hp 8300sff is the bios the problem !. impossible to boot legacy 1.03b. 1.02 no problem in force the bios in legacy in 1.03b. it does not recognize the usb boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 4, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Olegin said: Compiled drivers don't work on 6.2.1 (syno signed own drivers, and only they can be loaded). I have compiled drivers and loaded successfully, driver signing is not the reason that drivers are not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted February 4, 2019 Share #10 Posted February 4, 2019 1 час назад, flyride сказал: I have compiled drivers and loaded successfully In loader or in to the working system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 4, 2019 Share #11 Posted February 4, 2019 insmod at booted console so far, just to see if it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted February 4, 2019 Share #12 Posted February 4, 2019 21 минуту назад, flyride сказал: insmod at booted console so far, just to see if it would work. great wishes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b889 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, djsoundround said: Hello, I had the same problem with this pc hp 8300sff is the bios the problem !. impossible to boot legacy 1.03b. 1.02 no problem in force the bios in legacy in 1.03b. it does not recognize the usb boot This seems to be the case. I retried the 1.03b with 3615xs, and got the same thing, i get the happy hacking screen, but no ip detected. ill stick with 1.02b and DSM 6.1.7. Thanks for everyone's help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengo Posted May 26, 2019 Share #14 Posted May 26, 2019 Hello, I would like to take up the problem again. I have an HP Compaq Elite 8300 PC. If I create a USB flash drive with the Loader 1.03b DS3617, I can only boot it in UEFI, but it must be booted in Legacy BIOS. As soon as I start in Legacy BIOS the system told that no bootable medium can be found. I have already installed the latest BIOS update. Does anyone have a solution for me? Excuse me for my english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamkiki72 Posted May 26, 2019 Share #15 Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) Been there. Elite 8300 PITA of a system to set up Xpenology. Someone on the forum sugested Hybrid partition usb working. Found it, credit goes to "Mitja"https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/12867-user-reported-compatibility-thread-for-dsm-62/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-107653 Use 1.03b ds3615 (maybe 3617 works, but 3615 is prefered). You MUST create "HYBRID" partition bootable usb for HP Compaq Elite 8300. Using it myself, update from 6.2.1 to 6.2.2 or clean install of latest 6.2.2 working perfect. Allow me to make it easyer for you: ----------------------------------------------------------- PART 1. preparation: -Download: "gdisk-windows-1.0.4.zip" (for windows) or appropriate one for other systems from herehttps://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/1.0.4/gdisk-binaries/ -unzip content to folder (in the instructions bellow I unziped it in folder named "a" and copied that folder to root of a C disk) -in the BIOS of the HP Compaq Elite 8300 turn OFF UEFI boot by going to boot menu and press (I think) "F5" while UEFI option is highlighted, this will disable PC to default to UEFI boot on restart or powering on after power off. -in option ROM loading menu set all to legacy (storage, gpu, network) -on the working pc create standard clean usb with 1.03b - ds3615xs as usual leave it in the PC when done. -go to computer manager/disk managment (right click "My Computer" or "This PC" select "Manage" then "disk managment") - IMPORTANT - DATA LOSS POSIBLE IF YOU MAKE MISTAKE!!! note your USB key disk number ( Disk 0 is usually system partition). Please be carefull and double check! in the down listed commands the USB Key is "Disk 2" , copy/paste commands to lets say notepad, and CHANGE to match your situation (including for folder "a" in a root off a C disk if you didnt do it that way). ----------------------------------------------------------- PART 2. creating HYBRID partition USB Key- "gdisk-windows-1.0.4.zip" unziped to folder "a" in root of a C disk, USB KEY is "Disk 2" - !!!ALTER THIS TO MATCH YOUR SITUATION!!! first command "cd c:\a" - "a" represents folder named "a" and location in root (C:\) of a C disk - !!!ALTER THIS TO MATCH YOUR SITUATION!!! second command: "gdisk64 2:" - nr.64 represents 64bit system is running on, if you use 32bit system use #gdisk32 2:" -nr.2 represents Disk 2 on the system - !!!ALTER THIS TO MATCH YOUR SITUATION!!! -open command prompt as admin List of commands as per situation above (64bit sys, gdisk in folder "a" root C, USB is "Disk 2") press ENTER after each one of course:-------------------------------------- cd c:\a gdisk64 2: r o h 1 2 3 n "JUST PRESS ENTER - THIS SHOWING UP (DO NOT TYPE ANYTHING): Enter code (MBR partition #1):" y "JUST PRESS ENTER - THIS SHOWING UP (DO NOT TYPE ANYTHING): Enter code (MBR partition #2):" n "JUST PRESS ENTER - THIS SHOWING UP (DO NOT TYPE ANYTHING): Enter code (MBR partition #3):" n w y exit -------------------------------------- Now window will probably pop up asking you to format the drive, DO NOT DO IT!! Safely remove USB and put it in Elite 8300 and You are ready to go. This way created USB is harder to reformat and use again. Best way I found is to use free version of "MiniTool Partition Wizard" , first rebuild MBR whitin the program then delete partitions one by one (apply betwen each operation). I am sure you manage it and find best way if you need to reformat and reuse USB Key. Sorry for my English, not native speaker.... Good Luck!! Edited May 26, 2019 by jamkiki72 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengo Posted May 27, 2019 Share #16 Posted May 27, 2019 @jamkiki72 you are the best. With the help of your post I could solve my problem and boot from the USB stick. I installed 3617 and it's working. Only under info is a wrong CPU displayed, is it a problem? Is it possible for me to update to the latest version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamkiki72 Posted May 27, 2019 Share #17 Posted May 27, 2019 Glad It worked for You! Wrong CPU displayed is just cosmetic issue. You can install or upgrade to the latest 6.2.2-24922 (I use it on 8300). If you asking about future updates - no one knows. Keep eye on DSM update threads or if you feeling lucky, you can try for yourself and report to those threads. Best way is to have one spare HDD and USB stick with DSM which is same as your main syno box and when update comes unplug all disks and usb, put only that spare HDD and USB and check if it works after update. If it does, replug main HDD(s) and USB then update that. I do it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax0r7ag0z Posted June 11, 2019 Share #18 Posted June 11, 2019 I confirm that jamkiki72 and Mitja's methods also work on a Lenovo m82 SFF desktop!! Just migrated a ds3615 installation from a Dell Optiplex 990 Midi tower to an m82 running DSM 6.2.2-24922. I spent all eveneing yesterday trying to make it work. 6.1 / 1.02 worked flawlessly everytime, 6.2/1.03 didn't Disabled all uefi boot options, switched to legacy an boom! instantly online!! Thank all for your good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiTobsen Posted February 15, 2020 Share #19 Posted February 15, 2020 First of all THANK YOU to Mitjas and Jamkiki72 for the tutorial. This enabled me to install an HP Compaq Elite 8300 CMT with Jun's Loader 1.03b and DS 6.2.2- 24922 Thank all for your good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexx57 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #20 Posted February 20, 2020 I dont understand how we a making this!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have HP elite 8000 without UEFI boot. I can not make bootable flash 1.03b, terminal say mount failed. Can you help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexx57 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #21 Posted February 20, 2020 I am make all at this instruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexx57 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #22 Posted February 20, 2020 10 минут назад, lexx57 сказал: I am make all at this instruction in reinstall mode normal loading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengo Posted February 20, 2020 Share #23 Posted February 20, 2020 Hello, I don't quite understand why you use a hyper terminal. 1. create a normal bootable usb-stick with the looder 2.use the program gdisk-windows and work through the described points. alternatively, these points can also be executed on a Linux computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #24 Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Pengo said: I don't quite understand why you use a hyper terminal. because of the serial connection/console to monitor the boot process - the things you can't see on a display most people might use putty but any terminal will do 7 hours ago, lexx57 said: I dont understand how we a making this did you try the mbr loader from here? https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/20270-dsm-62-loader-with-mbr-partition-table/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexx57 Posted February 21, 2020 Share #25 Posted February 21, 2020 11 час назад, IG-88 сказал: did you try the mbr loader from here? https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/20270-dsm-62-loader-with-mbr-partition-table/ I test it mbr loader. Not work in normal loading, only reinstall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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