supertrash Posted November 17, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 17, 2021 hello friends, i need an advice and i really do not know what to buy. i have an old N54L with modified bios and 6 drives inside (i have bought a bracket to put 2 drives in the 5,25 bay slot), and he is running now 24h/24 for more than 6 years. he is running jun loader on usb, 6.2.3 25426 update 3 which is the last version supported by the actual loaders. i am afraid that the motherboard may die in the next months, and i would like you to give me some advice for a replacement. i would like a quiet server as the N54L Was, with a fanless processor, in order not to be bothered by sound expect the HDD noises. what kind of new pc setup do you advice me to be able to put inside 6 sata drives. i do not want to buy a real NAS. i want an equivalent to the N54L. have a nice day all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted November 17, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, supertrash said: hello friends, i need an advice and i really do not know what to buy. i have an old N54L with modified bios and 6 drives inside (i have bought a bracket to put 2 drives in the 5,25 bay slot), and he is running now 24h/24 for more than 6 years. he is running jun loader on usb, 6.2.3 25426 update 3 which is the last version supported by the actual loaders. i am afraid that the motherboard may die in the next months, and i would like you to give me some advice for a replacement. i would like a quiet server as the N54L Was, with a fanless processor, in order not to be bothered by sound expect the HDD noises. what kind of new pc setup do you advice me to be able to put inside 6 sata drives. i do not want to buy a real NAS. i want an equivalent to the N54L. have a nice day all I've been running the N34L for almost 10 Years now. Other than FAN replacement everything is good. I'm running RedPill and DSM7 on N34L, which is currently in development state for couple of weeks now. If i were you, i will be waiting for the final release of RedPill to decide on the hardware. The ThorGroup mentioned AMD on their roadmap. Edited November 17, 2021 by pocopico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted November 17, 2021 Share #3 Posted November 17, 2021 Another option would be a HP Gen8 microserver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dfds said: Another option would be a HP Gen8 microserver. is it possible to put 6 3.5inch drives inside a Gen8 microserver because curently i have 6 drives inside an HP N54L (2 drives are inside the 5.25 slot) ? Edited November 17, 2021 by supertrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted November 17, 2021 10 hours ago, pocopico said: I've been running the N34L for almost 10 Years now. Other than FAN replacement everything is good. I'm running RedPill and DSM7 on N34L, which is currently in development state for couple of weeks now. If i were you, i will be waiting for the final release of RedPill to decide on the hardware. The ThorGroup mentioned AMD on their roadmap. i know that N34L and N54L are good quality, but who knows ******* happens. is there a way to get an equivalent, or the N54L is so mythic that it will never be replaced by something else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted November 17, 2021 Share #6 Posted November 17, 2021 A new gen10 plus exists that is a great option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted November 17, 2021 Share #7 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, supertrash said: is it possible to put 6 3.5inch drives inside a Gen8 microserver because curently i have 6 drives inside an HP N54L (2 drives are inside the 5.25 slot) ? No it isn’t, you can add 2.5” drives in the dvd space but only 4 3.5” drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdse13 Posted November 18, 2021 Share #8 Posted November 18, 2021 I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is very energy efficient and silent.I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is energy efficient and silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocopico Posted November 18, 2021 Share #9 Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, tdse13 said: I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is very energy efficient and silent.I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is energy efficient and silent. Capacity wise, you have a very efficient configuration. I'll be heading for larger capacity disks soon as well. I've spreaded all data to various places and i need to gother them back into one place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 12:20 AM, Dfds said: No it isn’t, you can add 2.5” drives in the dvd space but only 4 3.5” drives. i do not understand why you propose me generation 8, as in the old N54L you can put 6 (3.5) drives inside On 11/17/2021 at 11:32 PM, pocopico said: A new gen10 plus exists that is a great option you cannot put 6 drives inside. gen10 is still worse than the old models. On 11/18/2021 at 1:36 PM, pocopico said: Capacity wise, you have a very efficient configuration. I'll be heading for larger capacity disks soon as well. I've spreaded all data to various places and i need to gother them back into one place. i think you do not understand what i asked. i have a 6 drive configuration with a HP N54L, i want to put my 6 drives, and install the same xpenolygy on USB in a new pc as small as the N54L, and as Silent as the N54L, to get my 6 drives config work again. this is simple. On 11/18/2021 at 11:54 AM, tdse13 said: I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is very energy efficient and silent.I was running during many years a N36L. I then switched to an ASRock J4105-ITX. You would have to add a PCI card for additional SATA ports. It is energy efficient and silent. at last someone who understood the post, what i would like. what kind of processor is included with the ASRock J4105-ITX. ? what kind of PC case whould you advice to put 6 3.5 drives inside ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted November 20, 2021 Share #11 Posted November 20, 2021 5 hours ago, supertrash said: at last someone who understood the post, what i would like. what kind of processor is included with the ASRock J4105-ITX. ? what kind of PC case whould you advice to put 6 3.5 drives inside ? Search is your friend, or at least logic. The processor is the Intel J4105. This board is very inexpensive, small (ITX) and passively cooled. It is directly supported for DS918+ (it is very, very close to the actual hardware that Synology uses but without M.2 slots). https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J4105-ITX/index.us.asp It only has four SATA ports, so if you want more, as mentioned, you will need to find something to plug into the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, and that's it for expansion. There are a lot of threads on cases, but I like the U-NAS cases because they have hot-swappable bays. I have the 4-bay version and the 8-bay version right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 6:35 PM, flyride said: Search is your friend, or at least logic. The processor is the Intel J4105. This board is very inexpensive, small (ITX) and passively cooled. It is directly supported for DS918+ (it is very, very close to the actual hardware that Synology uses but without M.2 slots). https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J4105-ITX/index.us.asp It only has four SATA ports, so if you want more, as mentioned, you will need to find something to plug into the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, and that's it for expansion. There are a lot of threads on cases, but I like the U-NAS cases because they have hot-swappable bays. I have the 4-bay version and the 8-bay version right now. thanks a lot have you got an example of U-NAS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted December 13, 2021 Share #13 Posted December 13, 2021 https://www.u-nas.com/xcart/cart.php?target=category&category_id=249 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share #14 Posted December 16, 2021 it is really a pity 😛 all nas with 6 bays, are out of stock lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrash Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted December 28, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 6:35 PM, flyride said: It only has four SATA ports, so if you want more, as mentioned, you will need to find something to plug into the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, and that's it for expansion. i have successfully bought the motherboard you adviced me, could you please advice me a good card for adding 2 more sata ports ? have a nice day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted December 29, 2021 Share #16 Posted December 29, 2021 https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/35882-new-sataahci-cards-with-more-then-4-ports-and-no-sata-multiplexer/ For the least risk you will want to select a PCIe x1 card, although if you research you may find x2 cards that work fine in an x1 slot (with the extra connector overhanging). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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