IG-88 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share #651 Posted April 22, 2020 16 hours ago, mysy said: I try the 0.5 extra with ds3617 loader, system could find the HDD through LSI 9400 HBA card, but other problem is only find 6 of 8 HDD. thats a pretty common problem, the max disk count for 3615/17 is 12, when having 6 sata and 8 by sas it will be 14 and the last two will not appear with some tweaking of config files it can be extended but you will loose that change with bigger dsm updates like 6.2.2 -> 6.2.3 and you end up without redundancy disks or worth the way to go is the patch in the loader, jun the dsm default of 12 for 3515/17 but as 918+ gad only 4 he inclided a "extension" in his patch (atm 16) and it also made it easy to extend further by just changing some numbers in the patch (it not possible that way for 3615/17 as there are no parts in the patch about disk number) i still plan to do it , i already had to alter the patch slightly to delete the i915 drivers so i guess i might play a little with the patch next weekend (if nothing more interesting comes up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartire Posted April 22, 2020 Share #652 Posted April 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, IG-88 said: HBA/Passthrough, dsm is build upon software raid and can't handle hw-raid Awesome, I had a Perc 710 which does not have pass-through but I got a PERC H310 on eBay That should support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share #653 Posted April 22, 2020 9 hours ago, mk13139 said: If I understand you correctly, you are planning to compile new extra.lzma/extra2 for 6.2.3, as the current v0.5 is only compatible with 6.2.2? the drivers for 6.2.2 will not work for 6.2.3 but you can (again) use the default drivers from jun that comes with loader 1.03b i already did something for 6.2.3 918+ as it was not possible to get hardware transcoding with juns default drivers and 6.2.3 but for 3615/17 there is not such a big need for a new driver package as juns driver will work with 6.2.3, there might be some special cases of 10G network or newer intel onboard nic's that will not work with jun drivers (because i added some drivers and updates some), i will do the same for 3615/17 as i did for 819+ last weekend, maybe in a few days 9 hours ago, mk13139 said: Just to make sure, before I put on 6.2.2 with v0.5 driver extension.. you did not write about your hardware (storage controller and nics) just try 6.2.3 with jun's default extra.lzma, in most cases it will do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk13139 Posted April 22, 2020 Share #654 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, IG-88 said: the drivers for 6.2.2 will not work for 6.2.3 but you can (again) use the default drivers from jun that comes with loader 1.03b i already did something for 6.2.3 918+ as it was not possible to get hardware transcoding with juns default drivers and 6.2.3 but for 3615/17 there is not such a big need for a new driver package as juns driver will work with 6.2.3, there might be some special cases of 10G network or newer intel onboard nic's that will not work with jun drivers (because i added some drivers and updates some), i will do the same for 3615/17 as i did for 819+ last weekend, maybe in a few days you did not write about your hardware (storage controller and nics) just try 6.2.3 with jun's default extra.lzma, in most cases it will do the job Sorry, forgot about that. I have a HP Microserver N40L with the onboard BCM5723 NIC which I would like to run on 6.2.3 DS3615 (currently on 6.2.2 DS3615 with your v0.5 extra.lzma), and a new project which has an Asus E2KM1I-DELUXE motherboard (AMD FCH A50M Hudson M1 chipset and onboard Realtek 8111F NIC) which I would also like to run on 6.2.3 DS3615. Edited April 22, 2020 by mk13139 Added DMS platform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share #655 Posted April 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, mk13139 said: I have a HP Microserver N40L with the onboard BCM5723 NIC which I would like to run on 6.2.3 DS3615 (currently on 6.2.2 DS3615 with your v0.5 extra.lzma), and a new project which has an Asus E2KM1I-DELUXE motherboard (AMD FCH A50M Hudson M1 chipset and onboard Realtek 8111F NIC) which I would also like to run on 6.2.3 DS3615. should both work with juns 1.03b extra.lzma when updating from 6.2.2 and replacing the 6.2.2 extra.lzma with the one from the original loader and having reboot/shutdown problems then just empty /usr/lib/module/update/ and reboot the "older" extra.lzma will not overwrite (6.2.2) drivers that where added later (by my extra.lzma) so in same cases they might be loaded an crash on boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted April 22, 2020 Share #656 Posted April 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, IG-88 said: should both work with juns 1.03b extra.lzma when updating from 6.2.2 and replacing the 6.2.2 extra.lzma with the one from the original loader and having reboot/shutdown problems then just empty /usr/lib/module/update/ and reboot the "older" extra.lzma will not overwrite (6.2.2) drivers that where added later (by my extra.lzma) so in same cases they might be loaded an crash on boot Not sure to understand. How to achieve Realtek 8111F NIC drivers then? Not on Jun extra 1.03b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share #657 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eduardo said: Not sure to understand. How to achieve Realtek 8111F NIC drivers then? Not on Jun extra 1.03b. r8168.ko https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software Edited April 22, 2020 by IG-88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 22, 2020 Share #658 Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 6:06 PM, djvas335 said: Actually I got the ideia to try this from a post by alexku44, when he confirmed that older driver works in his setup, so credit for discovering this goes to him. I confirm upgrade success dsm3615xs to 6.2.3 on Microserver GEN 7, GEN8 and GEN10, this is only hardware I have running DSM I can also can confirm that djvas335 is right! I have installed 6.2.3 using June's loader version 1.03b unmodified (original extra.lzma, rd.gz and zimage) and installing DSM_DS3615xs_25423.pat. That is on a very old hardware using Asus P5Q motherboard. Everything seems to be working fine. I will report later if I encounter any issues. djvas335, thank you so much for mentioning this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 22, 2020 Share #659 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) On 4/19/2020 at 9:41 AM, djvas335 said: Use 1.03b loader and upgrade directly to DSM 6.2.3, do not use extra.lzma, it's no longer compatible with newer DSM, they reverted their driver support to old version of drivers, so old drivers from original loader work. I am wondering what made them decide to revert back to older driver support. Just asking, not complaining 😀. I pray we will be so lucky with DSM 7.0 - I know, it's a very long shot but still... Edited April 22, 2020 by Decebalus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 22, 2020 Share #660 Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Since I have installed from scratch 6.2.3 using June's loader 1.03b for 3615xs on one of my old machines, I was wondering what would be the best approach to upgrade to 6.2.3 for those of us who have custom extra.lzma. Would it make sense to boot up with the current USB stick containing custom extra.lzma and after booting up, taking out the stick, reimage it with original June's 1.03b loader (and modifying grub.cfg accordingly, of course), plugging it back in the USB port, install manually 6.2.3 from Control Panel and reboot? Sorry, it may be a stupid question but I have never went through a similar process before. Any suggestions are definitely appreciated and I hope this will help others in similar situation. Thanks in advance! Edited April 22, 2020 by Decebalus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvas335 Posted April 23, 2020 Share #661 Posted April 23, 2020 I just mount it inside DSM, replace extra.lzma with old one and upgrade. 7 hours ago, Decebalus said: Since I have installed from scratch 6.2.3 using June's loader 1.03b for 3615xs on one of my old machines, I was wondering what would be the best approach to upgrade to 6.2.3 for those of us who have custom extra.lzma. Would it make sense to boot up with the current USB stick containing custom extra.lzma and after booting up, taking out the stick, reimage it with original June's 1.03b loader (and modifying grub.cfg accordingly, of course), plugging it back in the USB port, install manually 6.2.3 from Control Panel and reboot? Sorry, it may be a stupid question but I have never went through a similar process before. Any suggestions are definitely appreciated and I hope this will help others in similar situation. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk13139 Posted April 23, 2020 Share #662 Posted April 23, 2020 11 hours ago, IG-88 said: should both work with juns 1.03b extra.lzma when updating from 6.2.2 and replacing the 6.2.2 extra.lzma with the one from the original loader and having reboot/shutdown problems then just empty /usr/lib/module/update/ and reboot the "older" extra.lzma will not overwrite (6.2.2) drivers that where added later (by my extra.lzma) so in same cases they might be loaded an crash on boot 8 hours ago, Decebalus said: I can also can confirm that djvas335 is right! I have installed 6.2.3 using June's loader version 1.03b unmodified (original extra.lzma, rd.gz and zimage) and installing DSM_DS3615xs_25423.pat. That is on a very old hardware using Asus P5Q motherboard. Everything seems to be working fine. I will report later if I encounter any issues. djvas335, thank you so much for mentioning this! 28 minutes ago, djvas335 said: I just mount it inside DSM, replace extra.lzma with old one and upgrade. Thanks guys, I will try 6.2.3 with unmodified Jun's v1.03b loader this weekend (both clean installs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted April 23, 2020 Share #663 Posted April 23, 2020 14 hours ago, IG-88 said: r8168.ko https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software Silly me! You are right. Now I remember it was working time before. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 23, 2020 Share #664 Posted April 23, 2020 6 hours ago, djvas335 said: I just mount it inside DSM, replace extra.lzma with old one and upgrade. That's perfect. Is there a link or a thread that contains those details? What commands to use in terminal? Any help is definitely appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk13139 Posted April 23, 2020 Share #665 Posted April 23, 2020 17 hours ago, IG-88 said: r8168.ko https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software 2 hours ago, Eduardo said: Silly me! You are right. Now I remember it was working time before. 😳 So, is it included in Jun's v1.03b loader? Or do I have to install r8168.ko somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvas335 Posted April 23, 2020 Share #666 Posted April 23, 2020 1) Enable SSH and ssh into your DiskStation 2) Become root ( sudo -i ) 3) Make a mount point ( mkdir -p /tmp/mountMe ) 4) cd into /dev ( cd /dev ) 5) mount synoboot2 to your mount point ( mount -t vfat synoboot2 /tmp/mountMe ) 6) Profit! 1 hour ago, Decebalus said: That's perfect. Is there a link or a thread that contains those details? What commands to use in terminal? Any help is definitely appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 23, 2020 Share #667 Posted April 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, djvas335 said: 1) Enable SSH and ssh into your DiskStation 2) Become root ( sudo -i ) 3) Make a mount point ( mkdir -p /tmp/mountMe ) 4) cd into /dev ( cd /dev ) 5) mount synoboot2 to your mount point ( mount -t vfat synoboot2 /tmp/mountMe ) 6) Profit! You rock! Thanks a million, sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted April 23, 2020 Share #668 Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, mk13139 said: So, is it included in Jun's v1.03b loader? Or do I have to install r8168.ko somehow? extra.lzma\extra\usr\lib\modules\r8168.ko Included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 23, 2020 Share #669 Posted April 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Decebalus said: I can also can confirm that djvas335 is right! I have installed 6.2.3 using June's loader version 1.03b unmodified (original extra.lzma, rd.gz and zimage) and installing DSM_DS3615xs_25423.pat. That is on a very old hardware using Asus P5Q motherboard. Everything seems to be working fine. I will report later if I encounter any issues. djvas335, thank you so much for mentioning this! Quick update: I have been running 6.2.3 non-stop since yesterday and, so far, it has been rock solid. In fact, with 6.2.2 and the custom extra.lzma used previously, one of the HDDs connected to one of the two extra Marvell SATA ports was dropping from the pool randomly. Not happening any longer with 6.2.3 and June's 1.03b unmodified loader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share #670 Posted April 23, 2020 8 hours ago, mk13139 said: So, is it included in Jun's v1.03b loader? Or do I have to install r8168.ko somehow? its part of juns laoder and you could chek if you want by opening the extra.lzma with 7zip in the "older" thread is also a list of hardware and kernel modules https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/12859-driver-extension-jun-103a2dsm62x-for-ds918/ On 7/8/2018 at 6:32 PM, IG-88 said: Realtek(r8101: 10/100 Realtek PCIe FE Family RTL8100E/RTL8101E/RTL8102E-GR/RTL8103E(L)/RTL8102E(L)/RTL8101E/RTL8103T/RTL8401/RTL8401P/RTL8105E/RTL8402/RTL8106E/RTL8106EUS/RTL8107E)r8152: RTL8152/RTL8153 Based USB 2.0/3.0 Ethernet Adapter (source: 0008-r8152.53-2.09.0.tar.bz2)r8168: Realtek Gigabit Ethernet PCIe RTL8111B/RTL8168B/RTL8111/RTL8168/RTL8111C/RTL8111CP/RTL8111D(L)/RTL8168C/RTL8111DP/RTL8111E/RTL8168E/RTL8111F/RTL8411/RTL8111G/RTL8111GUS/RTL8411B(N)/RTL8118AS/RTL8111H(S)/RTL8118/RTL8119i (source: 0010-r8168-8.045.08.tar.bz2)r8169: Realtek Gigabit Ethernet PCI RTL8110SC(L) (RTL8110S/RTL8110SB(L)/RTL8169SB(L)/RTL8169S(L)/RTL8169) (source: 0008-r8169-6.025.03.tar.bz2)rtl8150: USB RTL8150 based USB Ethernet Adapter 5 hours ago, Decebalus said: , one of the HDDs connected to one of the two extra Marvell SATA ports was dropping from the pool randomly. Not happening any longer with 6.2.3 and June's 1.03b unmodified loader. ahci is part or the kernel synology delivers for each dsm version, so it seem likely that its not related to drivers/kernel modules loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted April 24, 2020 Share #671 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Hello all, i am on hp n54l microserver gen7 and have no additional nic. I am on dsm 6.2-23739 update 2 and now i read its possible to update out of the box with old 6.2 drivers to new dsm 6.2.3??? For this old version (6.2), i don´t use additional lzma - just junes DS3615xs out of the box. For 6.2.2 i remembered must need an additinoal nic or custom lzma - but now just update in control panel, reboot and all fine and finished? Greetings messenger Edited April 24, 2020 by Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share #672 Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Messenger said: I am on dsm 6.2-23739 update 2 and now i read its possible to update out of the box with old 6.2 drivers to new dsm 6.2.3??? For this old version (6.2), i don´t use additional lzma - just junes DS3615xs out of the box. yes, synology reverted the change made in 6.2.2 so old drivers work again 3 hours ago, Messenger said: For 6.2.2 i remembered must need an additinoal nic or custom lzma - but now just update in control panel, reboot and all fine and finished? yes, it should work this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalus Posted April 24, 2020 Share #673 Posted April 24, 2020 22 hours ago, djvas335 said: 1) Enable SSH and ssh into your DiskStation 2) Become root ( sudo -i ) 3) Make a mount point ( mkdir -p /tmp/mountMe ) 4) cd into /dev ( cd /dev ) 5) mount synoboot2 to your mount point ( mount -t vfat synoboot2 /tmp/mountMe ) 6) Profit! I am sure I am doing something wrong. I have mounted the USB stick and replaced the extra.lzma file, however, when I am trying to load the 6.2.3 pat file from control panel, I am getting an unknown error. Now, 2 things I think it is worth mentioning: 1. 6.2.3 does not show up under Update/Restore in control panel - hence trying to install it manually. Is it expected for 6.2.3 not to show up as an available update? 2. I have not replaced zImage and rd.gz files on the stick with the ones from June's loader. Those files are from 6.2.2. Do those need to be replaced as well? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvas335 Posted April 24, 2020 Share #674 Posted April 24, 2020 1. Yes 2. Maybe corrupt image ? No need to replace anything except extra.lzma 2 minutes ago, Decebalus said: I am sure I am doing something wrong. I have mounted the USB stick and replaced the extra.lzma file, however, when I am trying to load the 6.2.3 pat file from control panel, I am getting an unknown error. Now, 2 things I think it is worth mentioning: 1. 6.2.3 does not show up under Update/Restore in control panel - hence trying to install it manually. Is it expected for 6.2.3 not to show up as an available update? 2. I have not replaced zImage and rd.gz files on the stick with the ones from June's loader. Those files are from 6.2.2. Do those need to be replaced as well? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvas335 Posted April 24, 2020 Share #675 Posted April 24, 2020 Also you did unmount synoboot2 after updating extra.lzma didn't you ? umount /tmp/mountMe 9 hours ago, djvas335 said: 1. Yes 2. Maybe corrupt image ? No need to replace anything except extra.lzma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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