DSfuchs
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😂 I was able to sort it out after countless tests.
In the native Xpenology JOT mode, these CPUs run >12 times faster than the friend. Thank God Windows can be deleted again.
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DS920+ doesn't work in VMware Workstation, but in VirtualBox:
root@MyvBox:~# 7zz b -mmt4 -md26 7-Zip (z) 23.01 (x64) : Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Igor Pavlov : 2023-06-20 64-bit locale=en_US.utf8 Threads:4 OPEN_MAX:1024, ASM mt4 d26 Compiler: Alpine Clang 14.0.6 GCC 4.2.1 CLANG 14.0: SSE2 Linux : 4.4.302+ : #64570 SMP Tue Jun 13 21:39:55 CST 2023 : x86_64 : VBoxVBoxVBox : Hv#1 : 0.0.0.0.0.0 PageSize:4KB hwcap:178BFBFF Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz (506C9) 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 1872 2087 1994 2123 2116 2142 2214 2T CPU Freq (MHz): 196% 2159 195% 2169 RAM size: 2048 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 1629 MB, # Benchmark threads: 4 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 6233 340 1785 6064 | 119120 388 2622 10162 -
19 hours ago, IG-88 said:
baremetal i3-9100 with dva1622 (also low spec gemini lake cpu in original hardware)
looks ok for me on my i3-9100
maybe a base dsm system with (lower specs) older cpu as base like 3615 might perform better for you?
7-Zip [64] 16.02 : Copyright (c) 1999-2016 Igor Pavlov : 2016-05-21 p7zip Version 16.02 (locale=en_US.utf8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,64 bits,4 CPUs x64) x64 CPU Freq: - - - - - - - - - RAM size: 15858 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 1618 MB, # Benchmark threads: 4 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 17878 327 5325 17393 | 189664 398 4068 16181 23: 18316 351 5318 18662 | 187350 399 4067 16210 24: 18321 363 5433 19699 | 184327 399 4060 16181 25: 17764 366 5549 20283 | 180801 397 4049 16091 26: 14838 367 4929 18082 | 177973 398 4032 16055 ---------------------------------- | ------------------------------ Avr: 354 5311 18824 | 398 4055 16144 Tot: 376 4683 17484Your overall system performance is very impressive.
However, with our Pentium/Celeron® processors from the J product range, we boldly have 3 times better performance, based on your 65W TDP compared to our 10W. 🙂 -
Thank you
for your additional input!
However, you are using the more powerful Gemini/Coffee Lake CPU. This does not have only 2MB, but 4/6MB cache and much faster memory bandwidth through DDR4 RAM. The problem doesn't seem to exist there.
The observed problem/topic relates to Braswell/Skylake. But maybe I should consider driving/testing DS920+ on this hardware instead of DS918+. Is it due to a different version of the kernel, or is DS918+ known to be slower per se?
Wonder if others up to the Apollo/Sky Lake family are as intense.
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Final läuft bzgl. CPU/RAM DSM virtualisiert mit VMware Workstation auf Windows 5x schneller als nativ.
UNGLAUBLICH
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Hallo, ich überlege mir eine aktuelle DS223j mit 1.7GHz 4c/4t für 198€ inkl. Versand anzuschaffen.
Nun frage ich mich, ob es über die /etc/synoinfo.conf genauso wie bei Intel Disk-/Rackstation möglich ist, auch USB-Festplatten "intern" zu nutzen.
Benötige es u.A. für die Übernahme meiner RAID4-Installation.
Würde mich freuen, wenn es jemand bereits probiert hat und berichten kann.
Werte, die geändert werden müssten, sind:
internalportcfg
usbportcfg
esataportcfg
Was steht denn bei den Modellen mit Realtek RTD CPU da überhaupt drin? Bitte ggf. hier posten.
Herzliche Grüße
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...and final for me, best Xpenology performance under Windows 10 x64 VMware Workstation Pro:
root@MYvBox:~# 7zz b -mmt4 -md26 7-Zip (z) 23.01 (x64) : Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Igor Pavlov : 2023-06-20 64-bit locale=en_US.utf8 Threads:4 OPEN_MAX:1024, ASM mt4 d26 Compiler: Alpine Clang 14.0.6 GCC 4.2.1 CLANG 14.0: SSE2 Linux : 4.4.302+ : #64570 SMP Tue Jun 13 21:40:17 CST 2023 : x86_64 : VMwareVMware : : 0.0.0.0.0.0 PageSize:4KB hwcap:F8BFBFF Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz (506C9) 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 1813 2454 2479 2506 2528 2435 2511 2T CPU Freq (MHz): 201% 2422 194% 2281 RAM size: 1970 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 1629 MB, # Benchmark threads: 4 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 7109 351 1968 6916 | 130732 383 2910 11153 -
DSM in VirtualBox on Windows 10 x64
root@MYvBox:/volume1/Downloads# 7zz b -mmt3 -md26 7-Zip (z) 23.01 (x64) : Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Igor Pavlov : 2023-06-20 64-bit locale=en_US.utf8 Threads:3 OPEN_MAX:1024, ASM mt3 d26 Compiler: Alpine Clang 14.0.6 GCC 4.2.1 CLANG 14.0: SSE2 Linux : 4.4.302+ : #64570 SMP Tue Jun 13 21:40:17 CST 2023 : x86_64 : KVMKVMKVM : [89] PageSize:4KB hwcap:178BFBFF Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz (506C9) 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 1624 2149 1954 1960 1922 2083 2209 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 100% 2178 99% 2156 RAM size: 1971 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 3 RAM usage: 814 MB, # Benchmark threads: 3 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 4191 287 1422 4077 | 78490 280 2388 6696Native Windows 10 x64:
C:\Program Files\7-Zip>7z b -mmt3 -md26 7-Zip 23.01 (x64) : Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Igor Pavlov : 2023-06-20 mt3 d26 Windows 10.0 19044 x64 6.5C09 cpus:4 128TB f:7110F2774C Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J4205 @ 1.50GHz (506C9) (3C->3C) 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 2225 2308 2381 2408 2431 2394 2398 2T CPU Freq (MHz): 201% 2348 198% 2364 RAM size: 8008 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 814 MB, # Benchmark threads: 3 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 7299 316 2246 7101 | 126155 365 2947 10763 -
Hallo, ich habe international diesen thread neu aufgemacht.
Vielleicht hat die deutsche Gemeinde hier Ideen dazu.
Freue mich auf Eure Erfahrungen.
Herzliche Grüße
Martin
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Now the curious thing, the same DSM in the Virtualbox under Windows is almost twice as fast as native (1080 => 1978).
root@MYvcore:~# 7z b -mmt3 -md26 7-Zip [64] 16.02 : Copyright (c) 1999-2016 Igor Pavlov : 2016-05-21 p7zip Version 16.02 (locale=en_US.utf8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,64 bits,3 CPUs x64) x64 CPU Freq: 3368421 1777777 1103448 1361702 649746 332899 7876923 5626373 12641975 RAM size: 3413 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 3 RAM usage: 809 MB, # Benchmark threads: 3 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 1978 187 1029 1925 | 35042 195 1535 2992The fact that it is slower than under Windows itself is probably due to the fact that I am running a 32-bit Windows 10 with the 64-bit DSM as client. I will also try it with Windows 64-bit.
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By the way: My 32-bit 2-core ARM Synology DS116 "high-performance NAS" has to be beaten first.
root@DSexos:~$ 7z b -mmt2 -md26 RAM size: 1006 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 2 RAM usage: 777 MB, # Benchmark threads: 2 Dict Compressing | Decompressing Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KB/s % MIPS MIPS | KB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 1653 149 1077 1608 | 37777 183 1862 3410 -
Now compare the values under Xpenology DS918+ 7.2-64570 Update 1 on the same bare metal...creepy:
root@Mycore:~# 7z b -mmt4 -md26 7-Zip [64] 16.02 : Copyright (c) 1999-2016 Igor Pavlov : 2016-05-21 p7zip Version 16.02 (locale=en_US.utf8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,64 bits,4 CPUs x64) x64 CPU Freq: - 64000000 - - 128000000 256000000 512000000 - - RAM size: 15898 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 1618 MB, # Benchmark threads: 4 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 1080 275 383 1051 | 16166 357 387 1379root@MYcore:~# dmidecode -t 17 # dmidecode 3.2 Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs. SMBIOS 2.8 present. Handle 0x000D, DMI type 17, 40 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x000B Error Information Handle: Not Provided Total Width: 64 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 8192 MB Form Factor: SODIMM Set: None Locator: DIMM1 Bank Locator: BANK1 Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Unknown Speed: 1600 MT/s Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconduc Serial Number: 0072785D Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum0 Part Number: HMT41GS6BFR8A-PB Rank: 2 Configured Memory Speed: 1066 MT/s Minimum Voltage: 1.35 V Maximum Voltage: 1.5 V Configured Voltage: 1.35 V Handle 0x000F, DMI type 17, 40 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x000B Error Information Handle: Not Provided Total Width: 64 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 8192 MB Form Factor: SODIMM Set: None Locator: DIMM2 Bank Locator: BANK2 Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Unknown Speed: 1600 MT/s Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconduc Serial Number: 0E2EC3DE Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum1 Part Number: HMT41GS6BFR8A-PB Rank: 2 Configured Memory Speed: 1066 MT/s Minimum Voltage: 1.35 V Maximum Voltage: 1.5 V Configured Voltage: 1.35 V -
Hello, I've been struggling with the memory and CPU performance of DSM on Intel systems for about a year.
Someone who only runs DSM as a USB hard drive on the router will certainly not care about this topic. Maybe the reference to the anyway faulty Apollo Lake CPUs:
https://www.computerbase.de/2019-09/intel-apollo-lake-lpc-degradation-defekt-stepping/My focus is on Intel boards with Braswell to Skylake CPUs, as these are very energy-efficient and at the same time affordable for use as NAS, or are already left over as a superseded device.
Now the problems that plague me:
- the CPU only runs on the base clock frequency and not on boost, on systems where Intel EIST cannot be switched off in the BIOS.
- Memory modules only run at 1066MHz, but they should work at 1600 or 1866MHz.Since in Linux dmidecode -t 17 is displayed incorrectly also in Windows Task Manager/Performance/Memory/far right, I decided to use the 7-zip program, which is available on all OSs. Anyone whose test is far below my "reference system" should probably consider running Xpenology on Windows in the Virtualbox.
C:\Program Files\7-Zip>7z b -mmt3 -md26 7-Zip 23.01 (x64) : Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Igor Pavlov : 2023-06-20 mt3 d26 Windows 10.0 17763 x64 6.4C04 cpus:4 128TB f:110B0774C Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU J3710 @ 1.60GHz (406C4) (40E->410) 1T CPU Freq (MHz): 2522 2576 2596 2611 2590 2596 2606 2T CPU Freq (MHz): 199% 2610 199% 2604 RAM size: 16284 MB, # CPU hardware threads: 4 RAM usage: 814 MB, # Benchmark threads: 3 Compressing | Decompressing Dict Speed Usage R/U Rating | Speed Usage R/U Rating KiB/s % MIPS MIPS | KiB/s % MIPS MIPS 22: 6797 313 2114 6613 | 134339 397 2888 11461I look forward to your assessments.
Best regards
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Yes, when the desired update level is reached, discard the replacement hard disk and start again with the 4 data hard disks. After the migration, everything should be fine.
If the update cannot be carried out on the replacement hard drive, you must first downgrade there to a maximum of 6.2.4-U5 as described here in the thread.
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2 hours ago, jmia said:
other error
Also doesn't it work with a fresh installation on a single spare drive without the full install on the hard drives?
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Hello, unfortunately this is no longer possible. Most recently it worked for me with a DS710+, but that's much too weak.
Today my debian 32bit + OMV is running on a Thecus N2810PRO hardware.
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Then first you should try:
7.1.1-42962-5
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Problems during an update can be a "normal" error caused by the manufacturer. Check the internet for the error, or let me know what exactly isn't working.
Does the problem exist via the GUI ...?Surely you have to install 7.1.1-42962 (with Update 1) first.
Consider entry #207 and #208.
Also doesn't it work with a fresh installation on a single spare drive without the full install on the hard drives?
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As it says, entry #76 is for DS713+!
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No not at all. It is similar to RAID0 and RAID10. RAID5 is totally slow because the data disks also have to write the partity data of the others, and this at a completely different place on the disk.
With the two hard drives in the 2-bay, I always write > 400 MB/s. Writing the parity data doesn't matter, since that's what the dedicated drive is for. Also, the parity disk only has to provide half the write performance.If a disk fails in the RAID5, the performance is completely gone, where it would be almost unnoticed with RAID4.
They would like to sell >8-bays with fat processors, that's not possible when you can set it up easily on the cheap devices via GUI.
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I also struggled with 2x storage pool 1 in the GUI. I've tried everything, only a reinstall fixed it. But before that I had to back up some software directories from the system partition with linux tar and restore them. hyperbackup did the other thing.
Unfortunately, the new DSM7 GUI of the memory manager is junk.
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Why is RAID4 not supported in the Synology GUI when there is nothing faster.
Even with my 2-bay, the performance is extraordinary and can't be topped. For this I connect a 3rd hard drive for parity via USB or eSATA.
It would be nice if you could add it to the GUI via hack. At the moment I'm only working with "RAID4" as description.
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You will find this here in #76:
As a DS713+, you still have to change values in the /etc.defaults/synoinfo.conf file to:
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Hello, this is normal misconduct by the manufacturer. I'll take a look at the workaround description.
Here you are:
First upgrade the 6.2.4 to 7.0.1. Then comes the trick from grisu:
I found a way to get to 7.1.
You simply change the contents of the /etc/VERSION file to an old version.
Then restart and the message migration appears in the web client. Import the DSM version specified in the migration path and then after the migration to version 7.1 update 2.
But then you have to adapt the /etc/defaults/synoinfo.conf file again with the parameters mentioned.Best regards
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Total schlechte Performance (CPU/RAM) auf Intel CPUs
in GERMAN
Posted · Edited by DSfuchs
Ich habe es nach unzähligen Test aussortieren können. 😂
Im nativen Xpenology JOT Modus laufen diese CPUs >12 mal schneller als im friend. Windoof kann Gott sei Dank wieder gelöscht werden.