Timon-H Posted August 19, 2023 Share #1 Posted August 19, 2023 Hello, I hope someone can help me. My NAS was running for about a year without problems. But then i installed a new CPU..... This is what i did: Installed the newest BIOS and swapped my "old" i3-12100 to a i7 13700k. Booted up the system, set my XMP Profile and Fan Curve and Booted right into the ARPL Loader that i used right before i swapped the CPU and boom: Its German and means: No Drives detected in your DS3622xs+. connect drives and click "refesh" and so on... I tryed swapping the i3 back in and downgrading the Bios without any luck. The Problem is here to stay. I also other versions of ARPL, also no luck. I dont know what else i can do to fix this... The Sata Controller is in AHCI Mode and Hotswapp is turned on (tryed it with off as well). My board: Biostar B660GTN with Realtek RTL8125B 2,5Gbit onboard LAN. I use the onboard SATA Connectors. Is this maybe some Sata Portmapping issue? In the ARPL setup i can see 4 greyed out DUMMY Ports and 4 green Ports. So the detection from ARPL should work fine or not? Thanks for helping and sorry for my bad english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #2 Posted August 20, 2023 Try to reinstall the loader using ARC loader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TJemuran said: Try to reinstall the loader using ARC loader. I tried multiple times to reinstall the arpl loader. What do you mean with arc loader? Do you mean the arpl loader? Edit: I guess you mean this loader: https://auxxxilium.tech/redpill/ I tryed that just now. Same issue. No Drives detected. Edited August 20, 2023 by Timon-H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #4 Posted August 20, 2023 Hmmm, did you try to use with another disk? Is it same results or what.. Btw, I'm using gigabyte with B760 chipset and Intel i7-12700 works smoothly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, TJemuran said: Hmmm, did you try to use with another disk? Is it same results or what.. Btw, I'm using gigabyte with B760 chipset and Intel i7-12700 works smoothly. I have a spare disk and that disk also doesn't get detected. It's something about the portmapping or something like that. My board has only 4 Sata ports but it also displays 4 "dummy" ports in software or something. The stupid thing is it worked with the i3 and now after a CPU upgrade it's fu**ed.. iam playing with the idea of buying a pcie to sata card to hopefully get it fixed that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #6 Posted August 20, 2023 Did you use the same mainboard? And try to reset BIOS settings to default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, TJemuran said: Did you use the same mainboard? And try to reset BIOS settings to default. All I've done is updating the bios, installing the new CPU in the same mainboard and yes the bios update resets also the bios. Since then its done. Buuuut iam poking around in the arc loader and saw some stuff that can maybe fix it. But now it's not booting at all so something is wrong I guess 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #8 Posted August 20, 2023 If not booting, then check the boot order priority 😁, as long as you not touch or format the data partition, it's still safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #9 Posted August 20, 2023 Is there a compelling reason to use the DS3622xs+? If you have difficulties with SataPort mapping Please try switching the model to DS920+. If all disks can be mapped, migration between models will proceed naturally. Device-Tree-based models like the DS920+ don't have to worry about mapping SataPorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, TJemuran said: If not booting, then check the boot order priority 😁, as long as you not touch or format the data partition, it's still safe. It says it's booting but No Webinterface is loading. Sometimes the loader bricks my ethernet or something I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Peter Suh said: Is there a compelling reason to use the DS3622xs+? If you have difficulties with SataPort mapping Please try switching the model to DS920+. If all disks can be mapped, migration between models will proceed naturally. Device-Tree-based models like the DS920+ don't have to worry about mapping SataPorts. Idk can the DS920+ handle 24 CPU threads and 64gb ram? I had some reason to use the big system 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #12 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) You need to wait at least 5-10 minutes until the systems is fully loaded. Another trick is you can see the dhcp log in your router to see the ip address for your loader. Because sometimes the dhcp leases not displayed in the loader screen. Edited August 20, 2023 by TJemuran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #13 Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Timon-H said: Idk can the DS920+ handle 24 CPU threads and 64gb ram? I had some reason to use the big system 🤔 Models of XPENOLOGY (REDPILL) use Synology's real model, but in reality, they do not have resource limitations. I know that everything has already been hacked and the limit has been lifted. In XPENOLOGY (REDPILL), there is no thread limit or RAM limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Peter Suh said: Models of XPENOLOGY (REDPILL) use Synology's real model, but in reality, they do not have resource limitations. I know that everything has already been hacked and the limit has been lifted. In XPENOLOGY (REDPILL), there is no thread limit or RAM limit. Sooo I can go with the DS920+ and it will just work? What's the limitation then? Why should not everyone use the 920+? I will try that after I waited for my current test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #15 Posted August 20, 2023 Currently I'm using model RS4021xs+, which is in this model have jumbo frame support and not available in other model like DS3622xs+. So I don't know that the resource limitation works on all models or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted August 20, 2023 OK iam so done with this I now tryed the DS920+ Loader. Still no Drives found. HOW???? All 4 Drives are showing up in Bios, the Sata Mode is AHCI.... Whut is happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #17 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Timon-H said: Sooo I can go with the DS920+ and it will just work? What's the limitation then? Why should not everyone use the 920+? I will try that after I waited for my current test. The only limitation of Device-Tree-based models like the DS920+(Geminilake) is the inability to use HBA (SAS RAID) controllers. And it is an Intel CPU-based model that many users who want transcoding choose. If you want to use VMM, it is recommended to stay on an INTEL based platform. Edited August 20, 2023 by Peter Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #18 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Timon-H said: OK iam so done with this I now tryed the DS920+ Loader. Still no Drives found. HOW???? All 4 Drives are showing up in Bios, the Sata Mode is AHCI.... Whut is happening Is your ARPL the old version of ARPL developed by fabio in the past? Or, is the recently developed ARPL-i18n correct? And which revision did you target? Is it 7.1-42218 ? Edited August 20, 2023 by Peter Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #19 Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Peter Suh said: Is your ARPL the old version of ARPL developed by fabio in the past? Or, is the recently developed ARPL-i18n correct? I switched now from ARPL to ARC Loader. I used to use this link to get my ARPL: https://github.com/fbelavenuto/arpl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #20 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Timon-H said: I switched now from ARPL to ARC Loader. I used to use this link to get my ARPL: https://github.com/fbelavenuto/arpl Switching to ARC or ARPL-i18n seems like a good thing. The old version of ARPL has been discontinued. It is unable to respond to recent changes. Edited August 20, 2023 by Peter Suh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #21 Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Peter Suh said: Switching to ARC or ARPL-i18n seems like a good thing. The old version of ARPL has been discontinued. It is unable to respond to recent changes. Okay so i stick with ARC then.. What now? is my system just stupid and dumb and will never run again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #22 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Timon-H said: Okay so i stick with ARC then.. What now? is my system just stupid and dumb and will never run again? If the disk is not visible even after trying with ARC, an accurate log analysis should be followed. Because I am not a developer who developed ARC, I developed M-SHELL for TCRP I guess You will have to use my TCRP to get to the log analysis stage. Try ARC first. Edited August 20, 2023 by Peter Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon-H Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share #23 Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Peter Suh said: If the disk is not visible even after trying with ARC, an accurate log analysis should be followed. Because I am not a developer who developed ARC, I developed M-SHELL for TCRP I guess I'll have to use my TCRP to get to the log analysis stage. Try ARC first. Iam using ARC right now. Set the Model to DS920+, set the Version to DSM 7.1 (because last time the system was running it was running on DSM7.1). Still same problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJemuran Posted August 20, 2023 Share #24 Posted August 20, 2023 try to manual check with fdisk -l command in the loader shell terminal, before booting to dsm, select configure loader, then select exit. type fdisk -l. If you can see the disk partition, then you have a chance to backup your data first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted August 20, 2023 Share #25 Posted August 20, 2023 Using fdisk -l shows too much information, so I simply want to check if the 4 disks are being recognized by the Sata controller. Please capture the result of the command below and let us know. ls -l /sys/block | grep -i sd ls -l /sys/block | grep -i sata 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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