Ideal configuration and Protected disks

[hiliger84]

Hello lads,

I need help, I'll explain my configuration first.

 

I have a NUC8i7 with an internal M.2 (here I installed Proxmox and Plex, XPenology, Home Assistant and PiHole VMs) and a 2.5 Sata disk. So I have externally 3 2.5 drives via USB and configured one to Plex and two to Xpenology.

 

In one of the VMs I have Xpenology DSM7 found here on the forum with the image ready for Proxmox (I'm honest, I couldn't create the VM from scratch)

 

Apart from the fact that every now and then I find a faulty disk on Xpenology (I have them in RAID1 and I have also replaced them, I always have the same problem), I am undecided whether to definitively give up Proxmox and have Xpenology as main system on which to start VM. What do you recommend? I would also be tempted to put an M.2 adapter with Sata ports to add the disks, but there I would have the problem with the NUC which doesn't have any internal space.

 

Also, importantly, is there a possibility on Xpenology (and therefore on a Synology in general) to protect disks? In the sense that I use these discs for personal photos and videos. Is there any way to make sure that if I were to unplug a disk and plug it into another pc (windows or linux), there would be no way to view private files?

 

Thank you

[Peter Suh]

Following the question about the M.2 PCIE to 6 sata device a while ago,

I was curious about your system status, so I found this article while searching for previous questions.

 

Disks connected to USB ports cannot be guaranteed to receive sufficient power.
So sometimes the RAID of the disks seems to be broken.
If you have no choice but to use an external interface, ESATA is most recommended.
You can also connect in the form of DAS.

However, building an ESATA interface on a NUC may be more difficult.

 

Even today, on the Korean forum where I work, there was a user who inquired about additional power supply to install 4 disks on a mini PC.
It was difficult to build a stable solution.
This user uses N100, which is a MOBO with only 1 M.2 port and not even 1 SATA port.

[Peter Suh]

I propose this solution:

 

[sata to esata blaket]
The esata port is properly secured to the NUC chassis.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004427665743.html

 

This is a 4-bay disk enclosure.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283727427237

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Peter Suh

[hiliger84]

36 minutes ago, Peter Suh said:

I propose this solution:

 

[sata to esata blaket]
The esata port is properly secured to the NUC chassis.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004427665743.html

 

This is a 4-bay disk enclosure.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283727427237

 

At this point, is there a possibility to install Xpenology directly on the NUC and add the disks all with USB and create raids?

[Peter Suh]

A few days ago, I successfully completed a test connecting a disk to the esata port.

 

Patching DeviceTree to set port as eSATA?

 

 

[hiliger84]

22 minutes ago, Peter Suh said:

A few days ago, I successfully completed a test connecting a disk to the esata port.

 

Patching DeviceTree to set port as eSATA?

 

 

does this cable need external power?

 

but the nuc doesn't have esata port

Edited September 20, 2023 by hiliger84

[Peter Suh]

Can’t you understand just the sales information in the link?
The eSATA solution is
This is a proven solution used with genuine Synology products and the DX517 expansion bay.

 

 

 

 

 

This means securing an eSATA port that can be connected from the outside using this cable shown below to the internal port where the 2.5 Sata disk you are already using is installed.

 

 

 

 

The enclosure already has reliable power built in.

To connect the enclosure to the nuc, use the eSATA to eSATA cable provided when purchasing the enclosure.

 

[Agente Zeth]

12 hours ago, Peter Suh said:

I propose this solution:

 

[sata to esata blaket]
The esata port is properly secured to the NUC chassis.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004427665743.html

 

This is a 4-bay disk enclosure.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283727427237

 

 

I would stay away from the Mediasonic, they are very hot, of course if you don't mind always having the door open

[Peter Suh]

15 minutes ago, Agente Zeth said:

 

I would stay away from the Mediasonic, they are very hot, of course if you don't mind always having the door open

 

I only used one sample of the enclosures as an example.
Brands that are too cheap can be problematic.
Please select an appropriately recommended enclosure.

[hiliger84]

I'm sorry if I ask you to make me understand better. Maybe it's also my bad English that doesn't make me understand well.

first question: what is the point of using a sata-esata adapter and bringing an esata port outside the nuc? I still have to use an external power supply for the disk, right?

second question: externally how can I connect multiple disks to this single e-sata cable? I don't prefer the mediasonic solution because I have little space where the nuc is located

third question: currently, as already explained previously, internally I have a 2.5 disk connected to the internal SATA port but there is also a power port for the disk. Can't I use that to bring power externally?

another question: if I instead used an m.2 adapter with 6 sata ports, could I use external power or the internal power port explained above?

last question: if I bring the sata port externally (with also power port or not) or e-sata, how can I connect multiple sata disks to it?

I attach some photos relating to the questions

thank you so much for the support you are giving me and sorry again for my English

[Peter Suh]

First question: why use a sata-esata adapter and bring the esata port outside of the nuc? Still, the disk needs to use an external power source, right?

-> Isn’t this the only way to connect to the enclosure?
  , As mentioned above, the enclosure supplies external power.

 

Second question: How can I connect multiple disks to this single e-Sata cable externally? I don't prefer the Mediasonic solution because it leaves very little space for the NUC.

-> You said you are using 3 disks through the USB port. Is there space for these disks?

Third question: Currently, as already explained earlier, there is a 2.5 disk connected to the internal SATA port inside, but there is also a power port for the disk. Can't it be used to power externally?

-> There are the following parts that bridge SATA power.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804273368680.html

However, it has not been verified whether it is safe to use this way.
It is currently unknown whether the NUC adapter alone is sufficient or whether larger capacity is needed.

Another question: If I instead use an m.2 adapter with 6 SATA ports, can I use the external power or internal power ports described above?

-> In addition to the solution answered above, there is an external power supply adapter like this, but I think you should contact the manufacturer to find out how many disks it can support.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805331216819.html

 

Last question: If I take the SATA ports external (with or without power ports) or e-Sata, how can I connect multiple SATA disks to them?

-> This has already been answered above.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Peter Suh

[hiliger84]

6 hours ago, Peter Suh said:

 

 

First of all thank you thank you thank you again for the patience you are having with me

Having said that, I'll try to answer your questions now

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First question: why use a sata-esata adapter and bring the esata port outside of the nuc? Still, the disk needs to use an external power source, right?

-> Isn’t this the only way to connect to the enclosure?
  , As mentioned above, the enclosure supplies external power.

 

As mentioned, I would prefer not to use external cases because I don't have enough space. I have just enough space to have NUC and external drives stacked

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Second question: How can I connect multiple disks to this single e-Sata cable externally? I don't prefer the Mediasonic solution because it leaves very little space for the NUC.

-> You said you are using 3 disks through the USB port. Is there space for these disks?

 

 

This has already been answered above

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Third question: Currently, as already explained earlier, there is a 2.5 disk connected to the internal SATA port inside, but there is also a power port for the disk. Can't it be used to power externally?

-> There are the following parts that bridge SATA power.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804273368680.html

However, it has not been verified whether it is safe to use this way.
It is currently unknown whether the NUC adapter alone is sufficient or whether larger capacity is needed.

 

I will try to use this internal power port both to power the internal disk and to power the external ones that I will connect to the M2 adapter.

M2 adapter for 6 sata port

 

For the power, I have to link this
adapter external
with this
adapter internal
If it doesn't cope with the power, I have to look for an external power supply, like the one you linked below

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Another question: If I instead use an m.2 adapter with 6 SATA ports, can I use the external power or internal power ports described above?

-> In addition to the solution answered above, there is an external power supply adapter like this, but I think you should contact the manufacturer to find out how many disks it can support.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805331216819.html

 

This has already been answered above

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Last question: If I take the SATA ports external (with or without power ports) or e-Sata, how can I connect multiple SATA disks to them?

-> This has already been answered above.

 

I understand, it's possible

 

 

I understood everything? do you recommend anything else?

Edited September 21, 2023 by hiliger84

[Peter Suh]

Since you decided to exclude the enclosure,
Now all that remains is your choice for stable power supply.
I have nothing more to recommend.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Peter Suh

[hiliger84]

7 hours ago, Peter Suh said:

Since you decided to exclude the enclosure,
Now all that remains is your choice for stable power supply.
I have nothing more to recommend.

I'll get to work, let's hope for the best

I will write updates on the progress

Thanks again for everything