asaf Posted June 26, 2023 Share #1 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Hi guys, I have a XPEnology DS3622xs+ on baremetal HPE Microserver Gen8 with 4x4TB RAID 5. It's well known that Gen8 has 5 SATA ports but only 1&2 are 6Gbps and the 3&4&5 - 3Gbps. So I want to have all four HDDs on 6Gbps and to have more than 4/5 HDDs. Can anybody tell me which of these two will be more suitable: - IBM ServeRAID M5110 LSI SAS2208 8i with 1GB cache module or - Dell LSI SAS 9200-8i 9210-8i Or can you recommend some other HBA? Any input will be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Edited June 26, 2023 by asaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 9, 2023 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2023 I have an LSI 9211-4i in IT Mode on a test system with some SAS Disks. I do plan on moving a HBA to my GEN8 that i want to get up and running. Just wanting on my new card so i can test on there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaf Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted September 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Vodka2014 said: I have an LSI 9211-4i in IT Mode on a test system with some SAS Disks. I do plan on moving a HBA to my GEN8 that i want to get up and running. Just wanting on my new card so i can test on there as well. Please beware! I bought an LSI 9207-8i in IT mode. It works pretty well BUT... There is a BIG problem with HBA in DSM. No matter how orderly will you plug-in the disks, the HBA and the DSM for that matter will scramble them which I found to be VERY inconvenient. That's why I bought a PCIe to SATA adapter and soon will exchange the HBA for the SATA adapter. It's everybody's experience that these adapters work rock solid with AHCI on the MoBo and in DSM, and every HDD will appear exactly where it's plugged in every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 9, 2023 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, asaf said: Please beware! I bought an LSI 9207-8i in IT mode. It works pretty well BUT... There is a BIG problem with HBA in DSM. No matter how orderly will you plug-in the disks, the HBA and the DSM for that matter will scramble them which I found to be VERY inconvenient. That's why I bought a PCIe to SATA adapter and soon will exchange the HBA for the SATA adapter. It's everybody's experience that these adapters work rock solid with AHCI on the MoBo and in DSM, and every HDD will appear exactly where it's plugged in every time. Thanks what device did you get ? I need to check my test system to see if this is the case with the Disk Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted September 9, 2023 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2023 In DS3622xs+ This is a setting value that can prevent the order of the disks from getting mixed up. [HBA - H200, H310 recommended settings] DDSML, not EUDEV (only for M SHELL for TCRP) "DiskIdxMap": "1000", "SataPortMap": "12", "SasIdxMap: "0", "MaxDisks: "24" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 9, 2023 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Peter Suh said: In DS3622xs+ This is a setting value that can prevent the order of the disks from getting mixed up. [HBA - H200, H310 recommended settings] DDSML, not EUDEV (only for M SHELL for TCRP) "DiskIdxMap": "1000", "SataPortMap": "12", "SasIdxMap: "0", "MaxDisks: "24" So once the Loader is Built you add these settings or is this an whole manual step ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted September 9, 2023 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2023 So once the Loader is Built you add these settings or is this an whole manual step ? Both are possible.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaf Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peter Suh said: In DS3622xs+ This is a setting value that can prevent the order of the disks from getting mixed up. [HBA - H200, H310 recommended settings] DDSML, not EUDEV (only for M SHELL for TCRP) "DiskIdxMap": "1000", "SataPortMap": "12", "SasIdxMap: "0", "MaxDisks: "24" Is there something similar for DS918+ ? And LSI HBAs. Edited September 9, 2023 by asaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaf Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Vodka2014 said: Thanks what device did you get ? I need to check my test system to see if this is the case with the Disk Order. I bought this IOCREST PCIe Gen3 x4 to 5 Port SATA III adapter. It's based on JMB585 chipset so it provides 5 native SATA ports. Depending on your location there are other viable devices too. Me personally soon I'll buy a M.2 to 5 SATA ports adapter also. Something like this SilverStone Technology SST-ECS07-5-Port-SATA-M.2-PCIe Memory Expansion Card or this one Xiwai NVME M-Key PCIe to SATA 5 Ports Adapter Expansion Card JMB585 2280 Everybody's experience here is that SATA connections through AHCI work rock solid in DSM. Sadly this is not the case with HBAs... Edited September 9, 2023 by asaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 10, 2023 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2023 I am going to play with the settings when i rebuild the loader later or tomorrow and see if the disk mapping is all ok with me. Also i am going to add that test LSI HBA that i have to my GEN8 and see what happens with everything. Keep you posted on this. The HP P222 gets hot. my one is not used right now as i have my LSI in IT Mode and so far this works for me. Keep you posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaf Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted September 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Vodka2014 said: I am going to play with the settings when i rebuild the loader later or tomorrow and see if the disk mapping is all ok with me. Also i am going to add that test LSI HBA that i have to my GEN8 and see what happens with everything. Keep you posted on this. The HP P222 gets hot. my one is not used right now as i have my LSI in IT Mode and so far this works for me. Keep you posted. Will greatly appreciate it if you share your experience! Regarding the hot LSI HBA, obviously they are made for a full fledged rack servers where the air flow is so much stronger. That's why when put into a regular PC with a few fans it will get hot. I've managed to install a Noctua fan on the radiator of my LSI 9207-8i. This solved the problem with it getting hot. Can share some pics if you're interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 10, 2023 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, asaf said: Will greatly appreciate it if you share your experience! Regarding the hot LSI HBA, obviously they are made for a full fledged rack servers where the air flow is so much stronger. That's why when put into a regular PC with a few fans it will get hot. I've managed to install a Noctua fan on the radiator of my LSI 9207-8i. This solved the problem with it getting hot. Can share some pics if you're interested. Sure will do and yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaf Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Vodka2014 said: Sure will do and yes please First of all when 9207 arrived I replaced it's thermal paste. It's a bit tricky because the original one will only come out by (gently) scraping it off. The radiator is held on the chip by two screws. I used the holes on the radiator which almost prerfectly are matching the holes on the fan to mount the fan + radiator on the card using longer screws compensating for the depth of the fan. It looks like that. I provided some improvised insulation between the nuts and the board to protect it from physical and electrical damage. I used Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM which is a static pressure optimised fan. With just the original radiator 9207 was 70+ °C hot on idle. With Noctua mounted in it was ~35 °C. According to the documentation temperature range for the LSI SAS 9207-8i HBA operation is 0 °C to 55 °C (32 °F to 131 °F) (dry bulb). Edited September 10, 2023 by asaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 11, 2023 Share #14 Posted September 11, 2023 Hi @asaf I got it working my LSI 9211-4i that is flashed as an LSI 9211-8i with and 16TB SAS Seagate 12GB/s Disk is working. I pulled out my 6TB WD Drive and added the 16TB and the system found it and started the Auto Repiar on my RAID 5 setup. so yes this works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka2014 Posted September 11, 2023 Share #15 Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) On 9/9/2023 at 5:54 PM, Peter Suh said: Both are possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hi @Peter Suh I have tried to find a way to add this but i am not sure where to add this as i have the Disk Shuffle issue as mentioned above. Do i need to reboot and load the loader again and make changes or can i just make changes and save and reboot will it work. If so where do i do this please. I am a Noob with all of this via CLI etc... so please just bear with me. Edited September 11, 2023 by Vodka2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted September 12, 2023 Share #16 Posted September 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Vodka2014 said: Hi @Peter Suh I have tried to find a way to add this but i am not sure where to add this as i have the Disk Shuffle issue as mentioned above. Do i need to reboot and load the loader again and make changes or can i just make changes and save and reboot will it work. If so where do i do this please. I am a Noob with all of this via CLI etc... so please just bear with me. 1.Select the menu to edit user config as shown below. 2.When you enter the menu, it changes to editing mode as shown below. Edit as shown below and move the focus to the OK button with the Tab key once. Save and exit with the Enter key. Be careful to avoid typos. 3.If it is changed normally, you will not be able to see the MaxDisks item. You can check in the window at the bottom right that the remaining three items have changed. 4. Now please rebuild the loader. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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