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Did anybody try to migrate from Xpenology to Synology?
I've got 1621+ in the mail and thinking of just plunking my hard drives from Xpenology right into DS1621+.
I think it should be ok, I'm just thinking if I need to back up any type of configuration / Moments / Drive data just in case?
Or should I just do a fresh install?
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8 hours ago, nrg5009 said:
Hello @test4321, thanks for your response. My cache is read only and it is only about 20% full at the moment, it has fluctuated as high as 70% in the past. It is also a pretty small SSD (120GB) compared to the 2TB HDDs if that makes any difference?
Any other suggestions?
I would start with looking at the logs like @IG-88 says. Maybe post them here?
If not SSD cache then could be just old motherboard - its for first generation of i7.
My Asus Z-97K at 5 years old was already dropping LAN connections if it ran longer than 5 minute file transfers.
Your motherboard is at least 10 years old.
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Check your SSD cache - is it full? I had something similar where it would fall off the network when SSD cache was full. At that moment I had WRITE cache with 2 SSDs in perfect condition(no dead blocks).
It could be a bug in SSD cache mechanism or something.
Be very careful removing SSD cache! I would backup everything that is critical on the NAS somewhere else just as precaution.
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Taking sweet time for Syno to get these babies into my country. Amazon has bought all of them out and there is no stock available.
Hopefully in next few weeks I'll get it.
DS1821+ seems like a nice version too and price is not too bad either.
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7 minutes ago, Philhawk said:
Hi,
I recently read an article online, which said that DDNS is a major security risk to the LAN, especially with DSM 6.1 ...
Is this true/ is there something I can do to make it safer (Upgrade to DSM 6.2 does not work)?
Thanks for your help.
If you are running un-patched version and you allow DDNS through your Firewall and hackers own your machine - they can possibly own other machines on the network.
Your role is to limit the surface of attack:
- limit countries that can connect
- limit IP's that can connect
- set timing on firewall open / close ports (pfsense can open / close ports by schedule)
- set ports that are not standard for synology (not 5000 / 5001)
- set IP blocking for brute-force attacks (limit how many failed logins can happen from 1 ip address)
- put your Synology on a separate from network VLAN
The smaller the surface of the attack the better your chances are to stay safe.
Definitely upgrade your Xpe if you are a few versions behind.
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Node 304 works great. 6 drives + 1/2 drives NVME on the MB.
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I have tried it for a while. As soon as they fill up you start to get issues with writes / reads(and yes I overprovisioned SSDs and they were in good health). The NAS becomes unpredictable.
The worst part is when you remove cache (read or write) it messes up your apps. To this day I still have to run some commands manually: synoservice --start pgsql and synoservice --start synoindexd because Drive / Moments stopped working after SSD cache was removed.
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On 9/23/2020 at 11:36 AM, IG-88 said:
eight PCIe 3.0 lanes sound good
2 x sata is a little low but vendors could add more
2.5GbE sounds nice but the driver is only in newer kernels and not as single driver source available, so i don't expect it to work for us
same goes for the gen 11 gpu, might not work with the "old" i915 we use, no ehl aka elkhart-lake firmware is used in this driver
the "In-Band ECC" sounds interesting, having ECC with normal ram's by using some of the ram for ecc (might cost performance but might be a great feature for nas)
lets see if synology makes a new ds921+ out of this
and just to confuse everyone there is also jasper lake with similar features?
https://www.fanlesstech.com/2020/09/exclusive-jasper-lake-lineup.html
It would be nice if Syno released a unit with one of those Embedded CPUs that has Xe GPU and added transcoding.
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On 9/24/2020 at 6:37 AM, tdse13 said:
Synology seems to launcha new AMD Ryzen DS:
https://nascompares.com/2020/09/24/brand-new-synology-ds1621-nas-drive-revealed-ryzen-powered/
This is what can be done with that hardware:
Synology squandered such a possibility to have a high power device!
2 U.2 devices! 10gbe + 2X 2gbe ports! 3 USB3.2 ports!
All of this could have been on 1621+!
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4 hours ago, IG-88 said:
yes but there is room left and not everything working is listed
a quick glnce in the drivers of the pat file from 6..2.3 shows more 10G nic's then just intel
these are the drivers that belong to the list of nic's they support but you can use all alder hardware supported by this driver, the drivers usually have a list of supported pci id's
qed/qede
version=8.33.9.0
description=QLogic FastLinQ 4xxxxatlantic
version=2.0.5.0+sh
description=aQuantia Corporation(R) Network Driver-> imho this should enable pretty much all the cheap aqantia based cards like from asus xg-c 100c
ixgbe
version=5.1.3
description=Intel(R) 10GbE PCI Express Linux Network Driver
this is not listed but present too and i have just scrolled through it and took from memory whats a 10g nic driver, there might be one or two moremlx4_core, mlx5_core
version=4.1-1.0.2
description=Mellanox ConnectX HCA low-level driverdescription=Mellanox Connect-IB, ConnectX-4, ConnectX-5 core driver
-> that looks the same as 3617 so i guess connectx-3 will work too (can be checked by pci id's)
15B3:1002 MT25400 Family [ConnectX-2 Virtual Function]
15B3:1003 MT27500 Family [ConnectX-3]
15B3:1004 MT27500/MT27520 Family [ConnectX-3/ConnectX-3 Pro Virtual Function]
15B3:1005 MT27510 Family
15B3:1006 MT27511 Family
15B3:1007 MT27520 Family [ConnectX-3 Pro]
15B3:1008
15B3:1009 MT27530 Family
15B3:100A MT27531 Family
15B3:100B MT27540 Family
15B3:100C MT27541 Family
15B3:100D MT27550 Family
15B3:100E MT27551 Family
15B3:100F MT27560 Family
15B3:1010 MT27561 Family
15B3:1011 MT27600 [Connect-IB]
15B3:1012 MT27600 Family [Connect-IB Virtual Function]
15B3:1013 MT27700 Family [ConnectX-4]
15B3:1014 MT27700 Family [ConnectX-4 Virtual Function]
15B3:1015 MT27710 Family [ConnectX-4 Lx]
15B3:1016 MT27710 Family [ConnectX-4 Lx Virtual Function]
15B3:1017 MT27800 Family [ConnectX-5]
15B3:1018 MT27800 Family [ConnectX-5 Virtual Function]
15B3:1019 MT28800 Family [ConnectX-5 Ex]
15B3:101A MT28800 Family [ConnectX-5 Ex Virtual Function]
15B3:101B MT28908 Family [ConnectX-6]
15B3:101C MT28908 Family [ConnectX-6 Virtual Function]
15B3:6340 MT25408A0-FCC-SI ConnectX, Dual Port 10Gb/s InfiniBand / 10GigE Adapter IC with PCIe 2.0 x8 2.5GT/s Interface
15B3:634A MT25408A0-FCC-DI ConnectX, Dual Port 20Gb/s InfiniBand / 10GigE Adapter IC with PCIe 2.0 x8 2.5GT/s Interface
15B3:6354
15B3:6368 MT25448 [ConnectX EN 10GigE, PCIe 2.0 2.5GT/s]
15B3:6372 MT25458 ConnectX EN 10GBASE-T PCIe 2.5 GT/s
15B3:6732 MT25408A0-FCC-GI ConnectX, Dual Port 20Gb/s InfiniBand / 10GigE Adapter IC with PCIe 2.0 x8 5.0GT/s Interface
15B3:673C MT25408A0-FCC-QI ConnectX, Dual Port 40Gb/s InfiniBand / 10GigE Adapter IC with PCIe 2.0 x8 5.0GT/s Interface
15B3:6746 MT26438 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s - IB QDR / 10GigE Virtualization+]
15B3:6750 MT26448 [ConnectX EN 10GigE, PCIe 2.0 5GT/s]
15B3:675A MT26458 ConnectX EN 10GBASE-T PCIe Gen2 5.0 GT/s
15B3:6764 MT26468 [ConnectX EN 10GigE, PCIe 2.0 5GT/s Virtualization+]
15B3:676E MT26478 [ConnectX EN 40GigE, PCIe 2.0 5GT/s]
15B3:A2D2 MT416842 BlueField integrated ConnectX-5 network controller
15B3:A2D3 MT416842 BlueField multicore SoC family VFbnx2x
version=1.713.36
description=QLogic BCM57710/57711/57711E/57712/57712_MF/57800/57800_MF/57810/57810_MF/57840/57840_MF Driver
i40e
version=2.3.6
description=Intel(R) 40-10 Gigabit Ethernet Connection Network Driver
and beside the drivers in the pat file, as long as its possible to load drivers not signed from synology its possible to compile your own drivers and load them
you would need to copy them to the system and would have to mod the files loading kernel modules (or do a script for loading) but its possible to do that (even if i'm not planning to do that), in contrary to the original 918+ this unit has a pcie slot and also two M.2 slots that beside cache could be used for pcie cards (with adapter M.2 to pcie slot, mainly made for notebooks with a 20-50cdm cable)
it does, when its supporting the newer versions its usually valid for alder ones, worst case in some scenarios might be the need to manually copy additional firmware to the system (like its with i915 driver)
Ethernet Controller 10-Gigabit X540-AT2, device 8086:1528
from 1621+ 6.2.3 ixgbe.ko driver: alias=pci:v00008086d00001528so yes it does support the card
so as a summery i'd say its a nicely usable original unit, the 4x1GBit is questionable (as the 4GB RAM default is) but it can be extended and the default driver set isn't to bad so it will not burn a hole in your wallet when adding a 10G nic, especially mellanox and aquantia are cheaper ones
Its original price (from manufacturer) is way less that what it's being sold for. I think their plan is to get sales on this unit and make larger profit on it.
Thank you for looking into it! I will be purchasing it in a few days.
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On 9/24/2020 at 12:47 PM, IG-88 said:
looks like they got tired of waiting for new intel soc's
4x1GbE?, just syno's crap, that soc has a 2x10Gb interface support
it's syno family is"v1000" (same as amd's name for the soc class), nothing in 6.2.2 kernel source or tool chain we have from synology
would be nice to see 6.2.3 or 7.0 kernel source, tool chain and toolkit
(btw. in september synology added geminilake 6.2.2 source to its gpl source repository, not that we could make much out of this, only useful might be the new i915 driver they added for geminilake but we already have that driver in 918+ with dsm 6.2.3)
there is also a new ds1621+ 6.2.3 *.pat file from 9/2020 in synologys repository (includes the u2 updates already) - so its not a "possible" anymore its already in release
will be interesting if they will address hardware transcoding in videostation with that soc (i guess no intel qsv support)
You know what is fucking more annoying? Their list of supported NICs. FFS Synology - you are doing this on fucking purpose - 4 NICs supported. 2 from Synology ($200+) and 1 from Intel ($500 used) and 1 from unknown company.
Why would they NOT support Intel X540T2 or X550T2? What the *******.
Do you think it's still possible the drivers are baked in for X540T2?
I'm in process of buying one to get a bit more stable environment, but this is infuriating.
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In general - Synology Write Cache:
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FYI:
removed the write-cache and just made one drive to be for tranfers and one for read cache.
If you remove write cache, synology will stop all your services.
One of the problems getting those services back online is that PostgreSQL service will need to be started manually from SSH.
Login into your box via Putty and run these commands:
1. sudo synoservice --start pgsql
2. sudo synoservice --start synoindexdThen you will be able to restart your services (begin with Synology Application Service)
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Just saw this in this document:
Still really doesn't say anything about manually flushing the cache.
They should have done is where half of SSD cache is for read and half for write and you could flush write cache any time manually.
I believe Unraid actually flushes it's write cache automatically.
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I noticed after the SSD write cache is full, I can no longer get 500mb/s speeds(I'm running 10Gbe). I am also starting to get errors when transferring files.
Is there a way to purge the cache?
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14 hours ago, bearcat said:
@test4321 Any special reason why you picked a variation of HDD's ?
BTW: is the Intel I219-V supported by XPE?
Nope, just whatever the 8TB drives were cheaper - I bought. I was replacing 4TB Seagates one by one and whenever I found a deal I bought a drive.
As for the NIC I think one of them doesnt work because it's not supported.
I really don't care about that because I got Brocade 1020 in there so I'm mainly using that for file transfers.
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On 3/29/2019 at 10:42 AM, insp said:
Question: Does the ds3 617xs 6.2x recognize an M2 card in a z370 chipset (current MB) if the MB allows this as bootdevice?
A test showed me: An M2 module mounted on an old MB on a PCI card is not recognized. Of course, could not be set in the BIOS as a boot device.
Doods in this thread got it figured out:
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On 9/13/2019 at 5:55 AM, caaai84 said:
Hello,
I want to build my own NAS with XPEnology on it. My questions is about Hardware recommendation with 2019 hardware in the market. I have read the recommended hardware page but most of the hardware is no longer available, outdated whose or prices are high right now. Can someone help me to make a hardware list with hardware from 2019/18. Most important information for me is de Motherboard and the CPU.
Thank you!We cant read your mind - we need to know what you are exactly looking for.
Like - crazy CPU with 4 PCI-E ports that rips everything to shreads or tiny PC on an ITX board that sits in the background and does its own thing.
Here is for example my build this year:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BDHyWb
Some of the parts I had, some I didnt (bought new CPU + Motherboard + 2 SSDs).
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Has anyone messed around with these?
Its a M.2 NVME turned to PCI-E 4X slot.
Could be interesting to extend your hard drive collection in conjunction with:
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Update:
I installed the 2 SSD drives.
You have to disable Sequential I/O checkmark in settings for you to be able to see writes speed up. I only got 300-400 mb/s out of them - its still better than 100-200mb/s just with normal drives.
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On 12/19/2019 at 3:59 AM, The Chief said:
That's what I plan on 2020.
10Gbe infrastructure is rather costly…
Its getting cheaper. I'm following a bunch of 10Gbe switches that are silent and have 8-12 ports on them and cost below $600-800. I dont have that much need right now so I just use DAC cable with SFP+. But RG45 10Gbe - that would be sweet network.
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1 minute ago, The Chief said:
It's «Over-Provisioning» and it's not a cache-like tech. It's more of a «spare area» reserved for wear leveling, reducing write amplification & garbage collecting. 20% reserved area is more than enough in common scenarios.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Didnt use the right word.
Since my setup has 10Gbe card, I will be hitting these drives all the time.
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6 minutes ago, The Chief said:
What model have you chose, if it's not a secret?
ADATA SU800 512GB - https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01K8A29CS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2UXO5LPTDY3LN&psc=1
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11085/the-adata-ultimate-su800-ssd-review-128gb-256gb-512gb/7
Some ok reviews for entry level SSD. I'm not planning to run crazy loads on the machine, just need to speed up writes / reads.
I will probably leave only 400GB for the cache so it has that extra space in case they blow up on me (under provisioning).
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1 minute ago, The Chief said:
Good solution. M.2 SATA gains nothing in terms of speed, it's the very same SATA 6Gb/s (aka SATA-3). 2.5" SSDs are more easy to mount, they have no overheating problems, most of them are cheaper then m2 ones with same speed/quality.
Plus I bought that one for 95 CAD, now 2x of them are only $150 CAD and I'll be able to do write cache.
Migrate Xpenology to Synology?
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Ok I'll report back when everything is done!