Filo301
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12 hours ago, IG-88 said:
two point why i doubt your "Dell h310 sas controller(pcie x16@x4)"
asrock states its 16x slot pcie2 as pcie1x and intel specs for the six pcie lanes of that soc are
1x4 + 1x2 or 4x1 or 2x1+1x2 + 1x2so there is no 1x4 + 2x1 mode listed
so it seems likely you have your sas controller @pcie1x and ~500 MByte/s
You're right! I assumed that it is x4 because it has pins for pcie x4 but it is actually x1(checked via lspci) which make sense. 3x Pcie slots@x1 + pcie x1(integrated realtek nic) so 4x1.
On 9/20/2019 at 8:10 AM, Filo301 said:ASRock J3455M that looking promising has pci-e x16 but electrically x1
I forget about it.
12 hours ago, IG-88 said:i did not use a dell reflashed controller and a pcie 1x to 16x adapter and had nothing to change to get it up and running, but good to know
Actually Intel nic was not working in pcie x1 slot. Only pcie x1 slots in this motherboard requires shorting two pins, i didn't know that.
12 hours ago, IG-88 said:that denpends on the point of view
- its a nice franken-mod
for me you lost the way when trying to pimp it (but it a very reasonable priced build)
my choice in the same board size is a gigabyte B365M HD3
beside having 6xsata already its much more capable when it comes to pcie
2x16x (1x16 ,1x4)
2x1x
1xM.2 (also a 4x pcie, when used with a adapter card M.2 to pcie 4x or a M.2 sata card)
also it has pcie 3.0 spec so when using a controller/chip like JMB585 its possible to get enough bandwidth for normal hdd's (like when in the pci4x slot or in M.2)
and in this scenario we still have the pcie 16x slot open for a dualport 10G nic (like is use it)
depending on whats more important its also possible to have the pcie 8x sas controller in the 16x slot to get all of its performance (when using it as a all flash 8 x sata ssd
controller like lsis sas 2308 based controller)
btw. there is a patch available to get nvme ssd usable in dsm/xpenology but in your case the performance of a pcie attathed ssd seems wasted as its just having one pcie lane, a (properly) attached sata ssd might perform similar, is easier to integrate in dsm and/xpenology and costs less
with your build you might not see most of the performance problems as you just use 2x1GBit ethernet, but you will see lower performance when rebuilding a raid or extending
Gigabyte B365M HD3 is way better but i wanted to make this as much power efficient/cold as i could. It will work in attic where is often hot. J3455 is very cold but lsi sas2008 is not.
It will be used mostly for thveadend(dvbs), backups and VM/docker with supla + openhab or homeassistant(i cant decide which one is better).
I wanted to use intel optane ssd for apps/VM because is pretty reliable and i have a few laying around but it also can be sata ssd. I believe that it will allow me to hibernate hdds more often/for longer time.
12 hours ago, IG-88 said:how is this working?
how does a pcie device translate into a "propper" usb vid/pid to detect it as dvb device?
also the cable on the tevi card seem to be attached on the upper edge of the card, where is the wiring going from this point?
Tevii s480 is basically two s660 connected to pcie via pcie-usb bridge. I just bypassed pcie-usb bridge and connected it directly to internal usb.
12 hours ago, IG-88 said:you would need to use my new 0.11 extra/extra2 to get rid of jun's old i915 drivers, that way the new i915 drivers from synology would work
Thank You! I didn't do that yet because i was thinking that jun's loader is close to stock synology. I just want to make this as painless/worryfree as possible.
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1 hour ago, SantiBass said:
Wow, it's amazing. I bought these days exactly the same mobo and the same SAS controller. It could work in the PCI2 (x16) without changes?
The realtek like i suppose doesn't work in xpenology, isn't it? It's total necessary the intel nic. What is the the thing in pci3?
Realtek nic showed up under DSM but it get weird ip address, I didn't try to use it. Sas controller work without problems but it has to be flashed to it mode. Pci2 x16 is actually electrically x4 however it's working fine. If DSM wouldn't detect sas controller, just change bios setting called "primary graphics adapter" or something similar from onboard to pcie express, probably ASRock j1900m had this problem/feature. There is intel nvme/optane in third pcie. It surprisingly showed up under bios and it can be used at boot drive but unfortunately it doesn't showed up under DSM. Also dev/dri folder is missing so no hw transcoding(sw is working) but it could be because old settings. These hdds with settings has been used under 3 different AMD CPUs and 4 Intel CPUs with different loaders and DSM so I should probably do a clean install.
My English is pretty shitty so let me know if something is unclear etc.
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On 5/6/2020 at 3:26 PM, SantiBass said:
Hello
I'm looking for a motherboard like these. J3344 or similar, to put in it a SAS controller.
It's possible to setup a LSI 9211 controller with pci-e 8x in one of these? It seems that the x16 slot is only for graphic cards.
Thanks
I'm using ASRock j3455-m mobo with 8GB ram, Dell h310 sas controller(pcie x16@x4), Intel i350-t2 nic(pcie x1) and tevii s480 dvb-s2 connected via usb + Jun's loader 1.04b with DSM 6.2.3
This mobo requires pins A1 and B17 to be shorted for use x16 pcie card in x1 slot.
I didn't know that and I "wasted" a few hours.
It's still a test build but its on the right track.
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Loader from cf card may not work, it needs vid&pid. If you have free pci-e(at least pcie 2.0 and x2) you can add 10gbe nic. DSM 6.2 and newer wouldn't work because old cpu. As i know, it isn't ideal hardware for xpenology. I'm new here so don't listen to me😀
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I need advise about intel nic, 2x lan(bonding) should be enough. Which one? i found:
1." for Intel i340-T4" - propably 82580 chipset, 4xlan, pcie x4
2. "I350-T2" - i350AM2 chipset, 2xlan and pcie x4 but i have to cut it to pcie x1
3. "E575T2 " - 82575 chipset, 2xlan and pcie x1 so it is most suitable and cheapest too
4. "82576-T2" -82576 chipset, 2xlan and pcie x1
3 and for would be great because it's pcie x1 so will fit without any problem. 2 looking best but i have to cut pcie x4 to pcie x1.
What about compatibility with dsm? there is any advantage of i350 over 5257*?
One more question, there is any way to use one ssd cache drive for write and read and/or one ssd as cache for more than one volume?Some more tests with almost all services turned off
pci-e x4:
pci-e x1
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Dell h310 came to me today. I tested it on Asus e45m1 with two ssd on raid 0. Realtek nic, transfers to pc with Intel nic via 2 Chinese routers.
Left is smb share, right is iscsi.
Pcie X1:
Pcie X4 with some services off(I saw that CPU usage is often 100%:
I did test with online video playing on pc so it can have little affect at speeds
Overall bandwidth is very similar so pci-e x1 isn't bottleneck for lsi controller while using Gbe lan
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I will try anyway. ASRock J3455M that looking promising has pci-e x16 but electrically x1. If pci-e x1 will be bottleneck I'll add second h310, one for every 5 drives.
I also ordered pci-e riser. I want desolder integrated Realtek nic and put Intel nic instead 😀 it should work.
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I've ordered Dell h310. I'll flash it to it mode and will try with pci-e x1 on Asus E45M1-I DELUXE that I currently use.
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11 hours ago, jensmander said:
In short: stay away from Realtek NICs and Marvell controllers. Try to use Intel NICs and LSI chipsets. A good start is the update report section. Users of bare-metal systems post their hardware specs in there.
Unfortunately only motherboards I can buy cheap(<100$) is listed in first post, none of them has Intel nic but I can add pci-e Intel nic. I'll probably pick up ASRock J3455M because it fastest and same cpu as ds918+. I'm worried about lsi controllers, motherboard have only pci-e x1 so it's only 500MB/s(should I care about this? I use only gigabit lan). I could use two lsi if pci-e x1 speed would be bottleneck. I saw that (used) lsi controllers price is close to Marvell ones
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Hi,
I'm new here.
I recently installed dsm6.1.7 on Asus E45M1-I DELUXE (amd e-450, Realtek 8111E, 6xSata). It working pretty good, speed is enough but it isn't stable, it working good by day or two and it stop responding. I think I should swap to Intel cpu. Unfortunately motherboards with integrated cpu has mostly 2 or 4 sata ports, I need about 10.
I was thinking about motherboard + lsi sas controller or two 88SE9215 controllers.
I have some 4gb ddr3l laying around so itx motherboard would be nice but matx is ok. I wanted it to be cheap and low energy. Also I'm not sure that lsi sas controller would be better choice over 88SE9215.
I can buy:
1. ASUS N3050M-E (n3050, Realtek RTL8111H, 2x SATA, 3x Pci-E x1) + 2x marvell controllers
2. ASRock Q1900M (j1900, Realtek RTL8111GR, 2x SATA, 2x Pci-E x1, Pci-E x16) + lsi or 2x marvell controllers
3. ASRock Q1900-ITX (j1900, Realtek RTL8111GR, 2x SATA, 2x Sata, Pci-E x1, mPci-E) + marvell controller
4. ASUS N3150I-C (N3150, Realtek RTL8111H, 2x SATA, Pci-E x4, mPci-e) + lsi controller
5. ASUS N3150M-E (n3150, Realtek RTL8111H, 2x SATA, 3x Pci-E x1) + 2x marvell controllers
6. ASRock J3455M (j3455, Realtek RTL8111E, 2x SATA, 3x Pci-E x1) + 2x marvell controllers
I need it for backup from 4xPC, 6xAndroid, iscsi for 2xPC, docker with openhab/smartassistant. E450 was enough for this "tasks"
Which motherboard would be best with which controllers?
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Building NAS (advise needed)
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Posted · Edited by Filo301
I need like 3-4 drives in raid5 + 3-4 drives for backups. This is test build so everything could be changed. Someone said that i should stay away from Marvell controllers and lsi is a way to go(which is weird because ds918+ use marvell controller). This mobo has 2xSATA build in, perfect for ssd.
I added hestsink to this intel nic but it is unnecessary. USB nic is good idea. I could remove integrated realtek nic but i don't need more pcie slots for now.