gem.cafe
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after I read more & more articles from web, not sure I got understand or not, here is what I learned...
passthru = rdm, vmware esxi only has rdm (from vm kb), but it gets 2 ways, virtual & physical
virtual: vmkfstools -r / physical: vmkfstools -z
both of them need to format the target drive to vmfs, then use the either command/parameter on above to make a vmdk file
just not sure the rdm creation from esxi's webgui is virtual or physical, need time to find out
18 hours ago, IG-88 said:you should make good names for datastores and dokumentation what physikal disk is what data store
18 hours ago, IG-88 said:PS: dont forget to activate the write cache of the disks
I did long time ago
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I really have bad luck every moments...
2 x 1 tb hdd over-heated in a small case, facing vmware known issue (memory limit doesn't accept the negative value, -1048576), vm able to see the drives from hba but couldn't make datastore from them... shxt!
19 hours ago, IG-88 said:no need as vmware is supported by the default extra.lzma
I didn't know that, put it there just in case
19 hours ago, IG-88 said:no, you use p420 hardware raid with the esxi driver
hahaha... u got thousand-miles eye? I need to switch back the card to raid mode, but I will try set all drives to raid-0
19 hours ago, IG-88 said:there are also native ways dealing with that
no, I tried many times by using my mac (double click, disk utility..) to open the img, failed everytime, that's why I switched to windows and modified the img file
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can't bare metal bcoz no driver for p420, can't pass thru bcoz no driver for p420, can't rdm bcoz get hang easier... then... really need to give it up!?
anyway, I will give it a try!
just re-installed the esxi; modified the img's cfg file (s/n, mac...) + added extra.lzma 3.2.
yes, I hope to grab 4 x 8tb
getting cheaper now
toshiba 8tb MG05ACA800E around usd$200 today, rumours said, the price going down bcoz MG06 10tb will hit the market soon
** windows 10 on-to-go is very good for mac user who needs to use windows' tools, osfmount, notepad++
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thanks for your suggestion, IG-88, I'm planning to do something like your suggestion
my purpose for the last round is just for testing & want to see what dsm does about the drives actually
I killed the whole setup already, and will do one more round of trial tonite as following...
set the b120i as ahci, with 2 x 60gb ssd (all basic, for vm data store)
set the p420 as hba, with 2 x 120gb ssd + 2 x 1tb hdd (all basic, will try to passthru the whole controller to dsm from vm)
* a guy from web who is also using gen8+dsm, he said, esxi's hp image has problem (vm hang) if rdm is using, but vmware image is fine
if everything alrite this time, and able to run a week, then will go ahead to buy 4 x 4tb (or bigger) drives for data moving
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after many times of trial & error... I made it finally, and I'm learning DSM right now... yeah... DSM 6.1.4
ok, here is the first problem... a RDM drive is missing
as this round is for testing only, so I set 2 x SSD as 2 standalone RAID0 drives (disk 2 & 3), and 2 x HDD as 1 RAID0 drive (disk 4)
after added all 3 drive via RDM, one of the SSD is missing, and wried that the numbers of the 2 disks are "disk 33" & "disk 34"
very sleepy now, good nite!
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thanks IG-88, I spent a night to install windows 10, bcoz I'm a mac user
okay, I tried 3 combinations:
1) extra.lzma v3,
2) extra.lzma v3.2,
3) extra.lzma v3.2 + one SSD attached to B120i/AHCI
the results for #1 & #2, ask me to install hard drive
the result for #3, let me complete the installation, but, except the SSD, DSM finds no HBA/drives
sounds like only one way to go... VM
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ran a quick test based on p420 HBA with the original jun's 1.02b loader, without extra.lzma 3.2
now googling how to load the extra.lzma
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I found it accidentally by googling "esxi p420 passthrough"
this *new* port mode option is came from firmware v8.0.0, released on 2016-10-24, it also packed in latest HP service pack
I think no one will keep checking the FW for RAID card very often if there is no issue
I will start re-building my machine this weekend, and bare-metal will be the first try
will keep you posted
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found something interesting... port mode switching
can I build with bare metal if switched to HBA?
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hmmm... not bcoz of $, just don't want to spend any for buying new/extra hardware if the existing set already can do what I want
exactly , I would like to try esxi bcoz it costs me nothing (except time), and learn one more new thing is good for myself too
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59 minutes ago, IG-88 said:
open media vault
wow... it looks good and pretty like dsm
but after I quick "scanned" few web sites about omv & omv's plug-in, I couldn't found something like dsm's photo/audio-station, these 2 are major for me, I think omv is mainly work as a "file server"
the funny thing is , I found a guy who installed omv + vm plug-in, and... he installed "dsm" under vm
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58 minutes ago, gem.cafe said:
DSM 6.3
typo error... DSM 6.2
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thanks for your suggestions, sbv300, but...
7 hours ago, sbv3000 said:expensive and powerful controller
I got my card just around US$90, it is not expensive
7 hours ago, sbv3000 said:1) the community might resolve the drivers/modules issue
true, the solution will come up anytime, so for sure to keep it, and, DSM 6.3 will be out soon (I hope)
7 hours ago, sbv3000 said:2) Sell it on ebay
I don't think the card of mine can make much from ebay
I will keep using my gears and start to re-build next week, may be I can learn more from this way
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to be frank, I’m also like everything as “default”, bcoz I’m old and lazy, that's why my first idea is bare metal DSM, I thought it is simple to setup, just plug&play, but I was wrong
no, VM & DSM are totally new for me, my old build is just few 1T drives with RAID5 under 2012R2, it just a dump file storage machine, but after few years of that setting, I feel a bit bored and wanna make it more useful, for today, I want to use it for BT tv shows & movies, store/share my raw/jpeg pictures, I don’t want to use my old macbook air’s ssd for these purposes
forgot to tell, my ms gen8 got 1265L v2 + 16GB RAM + P420 at the very beginning, it sounds like over power for just 2012R2 but I didn't have much choices at that time, so just 2012R2
I heard about ZFS, it is the file system under linux /unix, hmmm.. after I graduated, I forgot all linux/unix commands except ls, cat... I think DSM does fit my requirements for now
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thank you, IG-88, thank you for your detail explaination about all my doubts!
I understand about 80% what your suggestions above, but VM is still "new" for me, I need a bit more time to digest.
I will have more free time next week, so that I can use my on hand hardwares to start my journey.
before that, I will google more to make 100% understand your suggestions.
again, thanks for your time!
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thank you so much for your reply, IG-88, you showed me a clear path to continue the XPEnology journey
1 hour ago, IG-88 said:no hpsa.ko driver for dsm 6.1 so no go for baremeatal
stupid me, I almost forgot that the v6.1 has no hips.ko for HP RAID card
1 hour ago, IG-88 said:(if you trust the hp controller with the non hp disks, i can imagin what hp will tell you if there is any fail ...)
sure that HP will tell me "none of my ... business"
1 hour ago, IG-88 said:most people here dream of much bigger hardware
... the setup on above is a dream, but I think it is not impossible, that's why I'm here to see how to make it work
and yours may became true in one day later...
okay, no hpsa.ko & HW RAID is not recommended, VM is much, so I would let DSM to handle all my RAID0 drives, hahaha
sorry, let me ask one more question... the planning of the drives
I googled & read many posts,/articles for trying to understand about the "volume" & "disk groups" under DSM
but frankly, I still don't really understand what are their functions
I understand that the original plan for the drives arrangement may not be accomplished, is there any suggestion which can make a similar one?
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23 minutes ago, haldi said:
1) If you want to see the SMART values in Xpenology jep, software raid.
that's my concern too... I prefer h/w raid instead of s/w raid, because I have HP's iLO to monitor the drives
30 minutes ago, haldi said:3) Never actually tried it, but i think it's said to be 1 SSD per Read, 1 SSD per Write PER Volume.
yes, 1-SSD for R only, 2-SSD for R/W, my idea is R/W for the HHDs under group#2 & group#3, not sure are they called "volume" or something else
thank you so much haldi!!
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It would be helpful it you indicate the intended use of the server. You would get better recommendations this way.
I would like to built it up for NAS mainly
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Hi guys
I’m new to XPEnology, and I hope that I can seek your help to built a new server with XPEnology.
I’m planning to re-built my old microserver gen8, which is running 2012r2 for few years, and I want to try XPEnology now.
Here is my new dream built...
SD slot
- 8G micro SD (if go for VM, then the SD for ESXi with XPEnology and/or windows 10)
B120i
- AHCI - 1 x old SSD 120GB (for VM OSs)
P420
- port00-00 & port00-01 basic - 2 x old 120GB SSD (for DSM's SSD caching)
- port00-02 & port00-03 RAID0 - 2 x old 2.5” 1T HDD (for BT download, temporary storage)
- port01-00 & port01-03 RAID5 - 4 x new 3.5” 4T HDD (for DSM’s photo, music, movie, tv shows, and shared files)
I have 2 ideas for the new built, 1) bare metal, XPEnology only, 2) ESXi, XPEnology +win10
I have searched Google/YouTube for tutorial in the past 2 weeks, but got no luck with any similar setup like mine from web, and I don't know my HDDs arrangement is valid or not
my questions are...
bare metal
1) should I set all the HDDs to RAID0 under P420 then let DSM to manage?
2) does DSM able to let me set the HHDs as my wish?
3) from one of the Synology KB article, which is said DSM's SSD cache for ONE volume only, does it mean that it work for either my RAID0 or RAID5 volume?
ESXi (I'm new to ESXi too)
1) should I set up my HDD groups as I wish before install ESXi & XPEnology, and then passthru (I'm learning) to DSM VM later?
do you guys have any comment or suggestion for me? any input/comment/suggestion are welcome! THANKS!!
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thank you so much for your help, IG-88, you helped me a lot to complete this task!
setting for the last round of trial…
ms gen8, p420 raid mode, 2165L v2, 16gb
jun’s loader v1.02b, image ds3615xs, pat dsm v6.1.4-15217-1
after created few vmdk files for the drives by using cli (vmkfstools -z), the dsm is able to see all drives finally
now, the dsm is up & running, hard drives’ arrangement is almost the same as I planned, 1 ssd drive for vm datastore, 2 ssd drives for cache, 2 hdd drives for temporary storage (bt), 4 extra new data drives will be coming soon
unfortunately,… no drives’ smart data can pass to the dsm, it makes me a bit uncomfortable
** tried to load the image ds3715xs, but failed to locate the diskstation by using find.synology.com, as ds3615xs supports 2-core cpu only, so will do re-set the vm with 2-core cpu only