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  1. 2 hours ago, The Chief said:

    I think that SMR drives are totaly useless SH*T. And what difference you expect from discard/trim? When PMR cache zone is overloaded, SMR drives are choked, rewriting data in SMR append-only zones. ZBC/ZAC (Zoned SATA/SCSI Command set) can help a bit, but not too much, and TRIM commands are not translated into ZBC/ZAC.

     

    So: SMR drives are slow and barely usable in NAS in all common scenarios and nothing can help with it. It's better to replace them with PMR drives.

    i have a 8tb drive too , not SMR , wirte speed is about 170mb/s ... SMR out of box at 60mb/s is ******* for sure how u said, SMR at 133mb/s with that setting is not that bad .. but.. its normal a PMR drive is better how 2x ssd raid 0 is more better too. the post is NOT for to say: "oh... my ,useless for NAS , SMR disk is mega super wonderfull now"

     

    anyways, for me, setting do a big difference.. my lan is 1gbits/s (110mb/s) , i can transfer files at full speed to nas now.. with my SMR drive i cant it without that settings, and , i cant with real syno too (or ARPL bare installation) with this disk maybe

  2. today i discovery that disk SMR have bad write speed performance, yes, i dont know before i buy one.

    anyways i try some settings with proxmox and ARPL for to fix something,if i can,  and i discovery this:

     

    i try some disk settings for to passthru  disk to my DSM VM.

    my disk is a  segate desktop backup+ 6tb USB

    i pass the disk with qm set ID -scsi (or -sata) /dev/.... etc etc

    i read that SMR disk start to lose write speed when u start to write some data on it... at 100% free space disk look a normal disk and normal speed. i notice that a single 100gb  file writed on a 6tb disk is enough for to start to lose performance so if u want to test disk and have a new free disk, first, copy at least 100gb data on it than start tests

    the command i use in DSM shell is:

    fio --name TEST --eta-newline=5s --filename=temp.file --rw=write --size=60g --io_size=100g --blocksize=1024k --ioengine=libaio --fsync=10000 --iodepth=32 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --runtime=300 --group_reporting

     

    test file is 60gb and this are results with settings i try:

     

    -scsiX, cache (write back) , discard yes, IO yes, ssd emulation no
    WRITE: bw=63.4MiB/s (66.4MB/s), 63.4MiB/s-63.4MiB/s (66.4MB/s-66.4MB/s), io=19.5GiB (21.0GB), run=315600-315600msec

     

    -scsiX cache (write back), discard no, IO yes, ssd emulation no
    WRITE: bw=63.4MiB/s (66.5MB/s), 63.4MiB/s-63.4MiB/s (66.5MB/s-66.5MB/s), io=19.5GiB (21.0GB), run=315426-315426msec

     

    -scsiX, cache disabled, discard yes, IO yes,ssd emulation no
    WRITE: bw=108MiB/s (113MB/s), 108MiB/s-108MiB/s (113MB/s-113MB/s), io=31.6GiB (33.9GB), run=300217-300217msec

     

    look first 3 tests , cache enabled slowing the disk and discard has no effect

     

    -sataX, cache disabled, Discard yes, IO n.a., ssd emulation no
     WRITE: bw=120MiB/s (126MB/s), 120MiB/s-120MiB/s (126MB/s-126MB/s), io=35.1GiB (37.7GB), run=300135-300135msec

     

    i notice now: sata is better than scsi,but discard yes or not continue with no differences  on HDD. i read trim help a SMR and we know  discard is a trim command, so, why no affect tests? maybe trim is not enabled in syno OS becouse its a HDD so a try to emulate it like a ssd and see if work:

     

    -sataX, cache disabled, discard yes, io n.a., ssd emulation yes
    WRITE: bw=133MiB/s (140MB/s), 133MiB/s-133MiB/s (140MB/s-140MB/s), io=39.0GiB (41.9GB), run=300104-300104msec

     

    so.. for my test, best settings for a SMR disk on proxmox VM and DSM is last one:

     

    pass the disk to vm with sata mode, disable cache, enable ssd emulation, enable discard (trim)

     

    133 mb/s is like a normal HDD, disk continue to have some random peak low speed (less than 1 sec long) but average is good enough.

     

    just for fun, test the disk with win11 out of box, format it , copy 100 gb data for to start low performace mode and start speed test.

    write speed on win11 is 60-80mb/s , always 60gb test file, 5 test runs. same speed of test with cache enabled on proxmox
     

    sorry for long post, what do u guys think? can someone try it too?

      

  3. 11 hours ago, Sanya_13 said:

    My host has 8GB RAM and 4 cores CPU. There is another VM running on the same host and has 4GB RAM and 4 vCPUs. 

     

    As I wrote in my first post, I experienced these shutdowns and VM unresponsives when after automatic VM reboot. I configured automatic reboot at 3 AM. Then I got unexpected shutdown at 4:44 AM. There was 0% usage of all VMs. I checked Proxmox performance graphs, there is 1-2% CPU load for that time and enough RAM.  

     

    This morning, when I tried to connect to DSM, it was not available. VM was not responding. I had to force stop the VM at 11:46.

     

    11 hours ago, Sanya_13 said:

     

    update kernel to 6.2 and install intel-microcode and u dont have anymore VM freezing

    follow this link:

    https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/vm-freezes-irregularly.111494/

    this happened with DMS and ur CPU in proxmox vm (N5105)

    update intel microcode to 23 and manual to 24, follow topic instructions

     

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  4. i create a new VM machine in proxmox.. set img with sata0 and a 32gb disk for install system scsi0, i set all addons and all modules, but when 918+ start dsm dont recognize 32gb disk... a go to screen where dms ask me to install disk and refresh for to found it.

     

    how can i fix this?

  5. On 10/26/2022 at 10:05 PM, frezeen said:

     

    i have a proplem only, how can i set disk in the 4 slots of ds918+?

    i have a virtio scsi single, with 2 qemu scsi disks in proxmox VM but DSM call them disk 13 and 14, i want disk 1 and 2 or something in that 4 slots only

    Nuovo Immagine bitmap.jpg

     

    solved with: i440fx in proxmox and disks to VM with -sata option and not -scsi.

    i have 2 disks in slot 2 and 3 now

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    1 hour ago, fbelavenuto said:

    Save the user-config.yml from first, replace the vmdks, boot the new loader and re-put the user-config.yml, this way is possible to recreate the loader with same config.

     

    DSM will ask for recover, do it.

    update from alpha to beta, restored the saved user-config.ym in /mnt/p1, rebuild the loader , start recover process  in DMS ,update process OK with no problem  in proxmox VM

     

    i have a proplem only, how can i set disk in the 4 slots of ds918+?

    i have a virtio scsi single, with 2 qemu scsi disks in proxmox VM but DSM call them disk 13 and 14, i want disk 1 and 2 or something in that 4 slots only

    Nuovo Immagine bitmap.jpg

  7. ok i success update to 42962 from 42951

     

    from web nas i manual install 42962, vm reboot to config loader... from console or loader interface, update arpl to apha5, selct what i need (9p addon) , build loader, restart and system is updated

     

    im not sure if u can skip some steps, this is what i do for update my system

     

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  8. update arl to alpha 5 and loader dont boot, hang here

     

    edit: ok , i can start menu.sh from console, but i think something is wrong

    edit2: ,update addons, modules etc etc, i build 42962 (im on 42951) add 9p addon (my system is vm proxmox machine, need virtio), boot DSM and nas miss my virtio eth, i dont have a IP.

     

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  9. can someone help me with proxmox ?

    i create a vm with sata1 drive 16gb

    first question: i need a usb storage or bootdisk can be a virtual sata/ide unit too?

    this is my output:

    -[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller [8086:29c0]
               +-01.0  Device [1234:1111]
               +-1a.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2937]
               +-1a.1  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2938]
               +-1a.2  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 [8086:2939]
               +-1a.7  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:293c]
               +-1b.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e]
               +-1c.0-[01]--
               +-1c.1-[02]--
               +-1c.2-[03]--
               +-1c.3-[04]--
               +-1d.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2934]
               +-1d.1  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2935]
               +-1d.2  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2936]
               +-1d.7  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 [8086:293a]
               +-1e.0-[05-09]--+-01.0-[06]--+-03.0  Red Hat, Inc Virtio memory balloon [1af4:1002]
               |               |            +-07.0  Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:2922]
               |               |            \-12.0  Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10d3]
               |               +-02.0-[07]--
               |               +-03.0-[08]--
               |               \-04.0-[09]--
               +-1f.0  Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller [8086:2918]
               +-1f.2  Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:2922]
               \-1f.3  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller [8086:2930]

    and this is model.conf generate when i execute  create command 

    [System Enclosure]
    VENDOR = QNAP
    MODEL = TVS-XXX
    CAP=0x28000000
    CAP = 0x143b1c
    MAX_DISK_NUM = 4
    MAX_FAN_NUM = 1
    MAX_TEMP_NUM = 1
    MAX_NET_PORT_NUM = 1
    INTERNAL_NET_PORT_NUM = 1
    NET_PORT_MAPPING = ENHANCE
    MAX_PCIE_SLOT = 0
    CPU_TEMP_UNIT = DTS:1
    ENV_TEMP_UNIT = EC
    SYSTEM_TEMP_UNIT=EC
    SIO_DEVICE = IT8528
    PWR_RECOVERY_UNIT = EC
    PWR_RECOVERY_CMOS_STORE = 0x70,0x61
    BOARD_SN_DEVICE = VPD
    ETH_MAC_DEVICE = NET
    DISK_DRV_TYPE = ATA
    DISK_DEFAULT_MAX_LINK_SPEED = PD_SATA_SAS_6G
    SYSTEM_DISK_CACHEABLE_BITMAP = 0x1e
    SS_MAX_CHANNELS = 0
    SS_FREE_CHANNELS = 0
    HEAT_PCI_DEVICE = 8086:1528
    MULTI_CONF_FORMAT = 1
    [System FAN]
    FAN_UNIT = EC
    FAN_1=I1
    FAN_LEVEL_0 = 0
    FAN_LEVEL_1 = 77
    FAN_LEVEL_2 = 70
    FAN_LEVEL_3 = 95
    FAN_LEVEL_4 = 120
    FAN_LEVEL_5 = 160
    FAN_LEVEL_6 = 200
    FAN_LEVEL_7 = 250
    HEAT_SOURCE = SYS, CPU, DISK
    [FAN Region]
    MAX_REGION_NUM = 1
    [System I2C]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D20:F0
    DEV_PORT = 0
    [System EDID 1]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D02:F0
    DEV_PORT = 0
    [System IO]
    RESET_BUTTON = EC
    STATUS_GREEN_LED = EC
    STATUS_RED_LED = EC
    JBOD_CONNECT_LED = EC
    VPD_MB = EC
    VPD_BP = EC
    LOCATE_LED = EC
    LED_BV_INTERFACE = EC
    LED_BV_SCROLLBAR = 0
    [System Disk 1]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    DEV_PATH = 0000:xx:00.0/0000:xx:08.0/0000:xx:00.0/0000:xx:0f.0
    PCI_SWITCH_PORT = 8
    DEV_PORT = 0
    ERR_LED = EC
    PRESENT_LED = EC
    LOCATE_LED = EC
    BLINK_LED = EC
    SLOT_NAME = SSD 1
    [System Disk 2]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    PCI_SWITCH_PORT = 8
    DEV_PORT = 1
    ERR_LED = EC
    PRESENT_LED = EC
    LOCATE_LED = EC
    BLINK_LED = EC
    SLOT_NAME = SSD 2
    [System Disk 3]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    PCI_SWITCH_PORT = 8
    DEV_PORT = 2
    ERR_LED = EC
    PRESENT_LED = EC
    LOCATE_LED = EC
    BLINK_LED = EC
    SLOT_NAME = SSD 3
    [System Disk 4]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    PCI_SWITCH_PORT = 8
    DEV_PORT = 3
    ERR_LED = EC
    PRESENT_LED = EC
    LOCATE_LED = EC
    BLINK_LED = EC
    SLOT_NAME = SSD 3
    [System Network 1]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D05:F1
    DEV_PORT = 0
    [Usb Enclosure]
    VENDOR = QNAP
    MODEL = USB
    MAX_PORT_NUM = 4
    EXT_PORT_NUM = 4
    USB3_PORT_BITMAP = 0x1E
    [Usb Port 1]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D16:F7
    DEV_PORT = 2
    [Usb Port 2]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D18:F0
    DEV_PORT = 2
    [Usb Port 3]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D18:F0
    DEV_PORT = 1
    [Usb Port 4]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    PCI_SWITCH_PORT = 8
    DEV_PORT = 4
    [Boot Enclosure]
    VENDOR = QNAP
    MODEL = BOOT
    MAX_DISK_NUM = 1
    DISK_DRV_TYPE = USB
    [Boot Disk 1]
    DEV_BUS = B00:D03:F0
    DEV_PATH=0000:xx:00.0/0000:xx:08.0/0000:xx:00.0/0000:xx:10.7
    DISK_DRV_TYPE = USB
    DEV_PORT = 1
    [System Memory]
    MAX_CHANNEL_NUM = 2
    MAX_SLOT_NUM = 2
    SLOT1_ADDR = 1, 0x50
    SLOT2_ADDR = 2, 0x52

    thanks for help

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