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11 hours ago, mpluser said:

Could you please add support for Broadcom NetXream bcm57760 NIC?

what pci vid/does that card have? i'd expect it to work and use the bnx2x driver

also try loader 1.03b/104b and dsm 6.2.3 with the recent extra.lzma, keep in mind 1.04b/914+ needs at least 4th gen intel cpu (haswell) and 1.03b does not support uefi

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Hi,

the motherboard is with LGA775 CPU  and without AHCI support for SATA, i would go with loader 1.02b and DSM 6.1.x.

 

NIC VID is 14e4:1690

 

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller [8086:2e30] (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e32] (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b8] (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [8086:27df] (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] [8086:27c0] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller [8086:27da] (rev 01)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM57760 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1690] (rev 01)

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1 hour ago, mpluser said:

01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM57760 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1690] (rev 01)

the vid7pid is in the tg3.ko driver, so it is supported, thats even part of juns driver set, if there is any problem then it might be boot problem

you can check the boot process with a serial nullmodem cable an putty

what extra.lzma version did you try?

did you try a mbr version of the bootloader?

 

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Some updates :

 

   Just to avoid any problems with my settings/tools,  I used the same image (1.02b MBR)  , same Usb device for another PC.

   Just changing the MAC in the image, worked like a charm for second PC.

   I have no clue why is not working with my first PC.

 

 

 

  

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@IG-88

Hello.
I have Lsi 9285CV-8e (it 100% work - i see it + HDDs in boot bios befor XPEnology start), and i see it compatible list.

But when XPEnology 6.1.7 + Driver extension jun 1.02b (3617xs) starts, it doest'n work (no one disk in system from this controller).

Why?

Another controllers (fo example LSI SAS 9201-16i) work, but i need work Lsi 9285CV-8e.

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On 12/17/2020 at 10:26 PM, Skyinfire said:

But when XPEnology 6.1.7 + Driver extension jun 1.02b (3617xs) starts, it doest'n work (no one disk in system from this controller).

Why?

afaik a lsi sas2208 based controller should work, you could try loader 1.03b with added extra.lzma but i don't thing the age of the driver is a problem

i'm not sure if controller need as IT firmware or can we switched into that mode

the newer controller do have a mode for single disk equivalent to IT mode firmware, did you use this mode?

a single disk in raid mode might not be detected (or maybe shown when part of a raid set)

to see if its in wrong mode you could make the disk part of a raid0/1 set and try if the loader finds anything that way, the you know you need to switch to non raid mode

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Thank you for your answer.
 

15 часов назад, IG-88 сказал:

you could try loader 1.03b

I can't use 1.03b loader, bacause Asus Z170 PRO GAMING + Celeron g3930 сan start only at 6.1.7 (1.02b).
 

16 часов назад, IG-88 сказал:

the newer controller do have a mode for single disk equivalent to IT mode firmware, did you use this mode?

I don't understand the question.
"newer controller" is what??
I have two controllers: LSI SAS 9201-16i and Lsi 9285CV-8e. The first one works, the second one doesn't.
System ds3615xs 6.1.7 Jun's Mod V1. 02b + lzma 1.02b.
The type of partition on disks does not matter at all. Because I don't see the disks themselves in the system.
Here is the LSI SAS 9201-16i:

 

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Disks 8, 9 and 10 are in RAID5.
Disk 11 has no partitions at all.
The disk 12 has a Single partition (Basic).

 

And here are the same disks connected on the same system via Lsi 9285CV-8e:

 

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The disks are simply not in the system.

At the same time, that the Lsi 9285CV-8e controller itself is 100% serviceable, since it identifies all 5 disks before loading xpenology:

 

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From here I draw an obvious logical conclusion: "extra.lzma for ds3617 v4.8" either does not contain a driver for 9285CV-8e at all, or this driver is incorrect. Otherwise, everything would work exactly the same as with the 9201-16i.
Аre you 100% sure that the driver is included in extra. lzma?

 

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On 12/19/2020 at 5:04 PM, Skyinfire said:

I have two controllers: LSI SAS 9201-16i and Lsi 9285CV-8e. The first one works, the second one doesn't.

and my point is that one controller is in IT mode and the other is not

on "older" (depends on generation/cip of the controller) there is a IR (raid) and IT firmware for the same chip/controller IT is for initiator target and in this mode every single disk is presented to the os as a single disk as for IR the single disks will not be seen and only raids defined from the disks will be seen on OS level

DSM relies on single disks and build mdadm software raid (mdadm) sets  and alongside monitors the single disks (s.m.a.r.t.)

there are newer chips and firmware where you dont  have to flash a new IT firmware to the controller to change the mode, i don't know when avago/broadcom started it

 

you controller Lsi 9285CV-8e seems to be in raid mode as it refers to virtual drives in the screenshot you provided

if you go int the controller bios you should se a "IR" somewhere in the upper area as reference to raid mode and in the other controller there should be "IT" in the same place

so look for a IT firmware and if that does not exist there might be a way to switch the controller to a way presenting disks just as simple devices

 

https://geeksunlimitedinc.wordpress.com/2017/02/16/flashing-lsi-hba-to-it-mode-or-ir-mode/

 

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Great.
As I understand it, IR-mode is RAID mode, and IT-mode is HBA (host bus adapter) mode.
And all adapters for xpenology should be in IT-mode. All adapters in IR-mode are not compatible with xpenology, right?
Why is this super-important information not listed in the compatibility list in a huge red font???
I selected the controller, relying entirely on the compatibility list. Picked it up. I bought it. And it doesn't work. Because there is no warning anywhere that all the controllers listed in the so-called "compatibility sheet" are actually useless garbage if they are in IR mode.

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On 12/21/2020 at 3:35 AM, Skyinfire said:

Great.
As I understand it, IR-mode is RAID mode, and IT-mode is HBA (host bus adapter) mode.
And all adapters for xpenology should be in IT-mode. All adapters in IR-mode are not compatible with xpenology, right?
Why is this super-important information not listed in the compatibility list in a huge red font???
I selected the controller, relying entirely on the compatibility list. Picked it up. I bought it. And it doesn't work. Because there is no warning anywhere that all the controllers listed in the so-called "compatibility sheet" are actually useless garbage if they are in IR mode.

It may not be useless garbage. See IG-88's previous post. There are some guides about flashing LSI adapters into IT mode (aka putting them into basic HBAs) Give it a try first. If it still doesn't work, then yeah maybe it is useless garbage to you. Good luck.
 

On 12/21/2020 at 2:21 AM, IG-88 said:

you controller Lsi 9285CV-8e seems to be in raid mode as it refers to virtual drives in the screenshot you provided

if you go int the controller bios you should se a "IR" somewhere in the upper area as reference to raid mode and in the other controller there should be "IT" in the same place

so look for a IT firmware and if that does not exist there might be a way to switch the controller to a way presenting disks just as simple devices

 

https://geeksunlimitedinc.wordpress.com/2017/02/16/flashing-lsi-hba-to-it-mode-or-ir-mode/

 

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On 12/20/2020 at 8:35 PM, Skyinfire said:

All adapters in IR-mode are not compatible with xpenology, right?

no, there are drivers in extra but you would need to define a raid set in the controller dsm would only see a big drive or you define every disk ans a single raid set ad the use these to form a raid set in dsm in both scenarios you cant see anything about the physical disks , no SN or smart values and you will not see if a disks fails, to dangerous

if raid mode has to be used i'd suggest esxi and handling disks and stuff there and let use dsm a single virtual disk in the vmfs volume (that is raid protected by the controller)

 

6 hours ago, bucu said:

Why is this super-important information not listed in the compatibility list in a huge red font???

 

because a driver for raid exists and most of the controllers can be flashed to a IT firmware, some newer (sas93xx/94xx chips?) even have a switch in the firmware to have hba mode so no flashing needed, btw. thats also the case for hp sa p420 ond newer (but i've not heard of a user successfully using the hpsa.ko driver, i now own a p410 so i can at least try in raid mode and maybe we find a user who can test the hba mode)

 

On 12/20/2020 at 8:35 PM, Skyinfire said:

relying entirely on the compatibility list

 

there is only my list of devices supported from a driver, thats no compatibility list, lots of drivers where never tested or we never got feedback

someone would need to do a lot of work collecting and reworking these data, that would need a lot of time and constant work as there are new drivers or driver versions and even lots of loaders and dsm versions

 

as stated above the controller in IR mode can be used but its kind of pointless as its dangerous and one looses a lot of comfort, the mdadm raid is one of the plus points as it helps on recovery and can make the array available with different controllers and even nas systems (omv can use the data volumes of dsm)

so its more a case for a design guide about hardware to choose

 

edit: i found this link, that indicates that there is no official IT firmware for this controller

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/6c3jj3/lsi_9286cv8e_it_mode/

 

edit2: seems to be possible after all

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/lsi-9270-8i-it-mode.16085/

https://mywiredhouse.net/blog/flashing-lsi-2208-firmware-use-hba/

 

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Greetings,

I'm trying to boot loader 1.03b for DS3617. With the vanilla loader the system will boot and my device is discoverable on the network. However, when I replace the vanilla extras with extra.lzma 4.8 for ds3617 the system still boots.....but never becomes discoverable on the network. From a live disk I can tell that the drivers being used are:

 

NIC - e1000e
Storage - mvsas

 

I've tried the ds3615 loaders and extended extra.lzma as well to no avail. Any suggestions on what I can try next on here? I don't have a serial port to view output and this is a fresh install.

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