centeredki69 Posted September 4, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 4, 2017 Hi everyone!I am having an issue with VMM, After I create a VM. When I try to start it .It's show me an error "Failed to power on the virtual machine " name of my VM" on the host " name of my NAS" due to insufficient RAM on the host." And the VM will not start.I have installed DS3615xs OS with JUN's loader. CPU is a Core 2 Duo E6600 and I have 8 gigs of RAM installed. Any feedback would be appreciated, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted September 4, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 4, 2017 Some info regarding the VM you're trying to setup might help, i.e. processor, memory allocated etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grequ22 Posted September 4, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 4, 2017 Hi, Same problem here. Doesnt matter what virtual machine type: DSM, Windows, Debian or how many processors, memory (of course containing in my spec: Quad Amd 5350, 8GB Ram, DS3615xs v1.02b) i will try to allocate. No clue so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centeredki69 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Dfds said: Some info regarding the VM you're trying to setup might help, i.e. processor, memory allocated etc. I have alocated all the options available from 1 gig to 8. But of course I can't use 8 as there would be none left for the host. I have also tried from 1 to 3 CPUs / cores. I have tried win 7 iso, win10 iso, server 2016 ios. It just will not start. It's like it the VM can't see the host info, although it is displayed under the host info area (4 cores and 8gig RAM) Edited September 5, 2017 by centeredki69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurstpilot Posted September 20, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 20, 2017 Same here on June's 1.02b. Some news on your machines? Could you solve it? Sorry, cant find the edit button. Does it work with your loader @quicknick ? Sorry for bothering you the whole day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainb Posted September 22, 2017 Share #6 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Same problem for me HP microserver N54L - 16Gb (grub.cfg with "disable_mtrr_trim") - Jun 1.02b - DSM 6.1.3u4 Test 6.1.3 and 6.1.3u4 delete VM & uninstall VMM = Error Need Intel CPU with VT-x / VT-d ? Quote Compatibility - Applied Models 18-series: DS3018xs, DS918+, DS718+, DS218+ 17-series: FS3017, FS2017, RS4017xs+, RS18017xs+, RS3617xs+, RS3617xs, RS3617RPxs, DS3617xs, DS1817+, DS1517+ 16-series: RS18016xs+, RS2416+, RS2416RP+, DS916+ 15-series: RC18015xs+, DS3615xs, DS2415+, DS1815+, DS1515+, RS815+, RS815RP+ 14-series: RS3614xs+, RS3614xs, RS3614RPxs 13-series: RS10613xs+, RS3413xs+ 12-series: DS3612xs, RS3412xs, RS3412RPxs 11-series: DS3611xs, RS3411xs, RS3411RPxsSystem requirements Btrfs Volume 4GB system memory or above DSM 6.1.2 or above key : g7 gen7 N40L N36L Edited September 22, 2017 by alainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurstpilot Posted September 22, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, alainb said: delete VM & uninstall VMM = Error Need Intel CPU with VT-x / VT-d ? You need to stopp all virtaul services from cli and remove the app folders manually. There was a thread about it, i did not find em anymore. sorry. Its also not working with my xeon bare metal. Edited September 22, 2017 by Wurstpilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toastboy Posted September 25, 2017 Share #8 Posted September 25, 2017 I got a Win7Pro64 VM working on my baremetal Q1900ITX. I only gave it 2 cores and 1GB of RAM. The low level of RAM was a problem, but everything works and its surprisingly responsive if I'm not doing anything on it. I'm running Jun's 1.02b, 6.1.3U4, DS3615xs I did read somewhere that in order for VMM to work on synology boxes, you had to be running Brtfs and not ext4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magara Posted September 27, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 27, 2017 On 25. 9. 2017 at 8:15 PM, toastboy said: I got a Win7Pro64 VM working on my baremetal Q1900ITX. I only gave it 2 cores and 1GB of RAM. The low level of RAM was a problem, but everything works and its surprisingly responsive if I'm not doing anything on it. I'm running Jun's 1.02b, 6.1.3U4, DS3615xs I did read somewhere that in order for VMM to work on synology boxes, you had to be running Brtfs and not ext4 but i have other problem have you tried Virtual machine manager ? on proxmox 5 i got i5 760 cpu 6 gb ram 5Gb acessible for DSM 6.1 update5 i have installed vmm, created storage, switch, vm, but i can't start it, i got message "not enought memory" - problem with SLAT ? i5 760 support SLAT - EAT vmm says it has 4.5 GB available for virtualization, so i think it would be problem that it is hosted virtualization maybe proxmox cant do that at all i now that it is possible to host proxmox on esxi i have tested barebone USB dsx3615 1.02b notebook dell D830 with 2GB ram witch C2D cpu without SLAT and i manage to make vm with 128 MB ram and 1 core that booted to hirens boot cd XP so it is working (128MB of RAM becasue anything bigger cant start) but something happen and vmm says at reboot of dsm, that can't acess storage but in vmm i see that vmm is ready and see storage , can't delete it, because there are vm running but vm aren't running, never was memmory error, cant delete cluster error cant delete vm error cant uninstall vmm error , so vmm sits there consume about 10 to 25 % of cpu and do nothing takes 130 gb of clean vm disk space :), cant get rid of it installed htop midnight commander and tried delete vm disks manualy but cant it is used doesnt have rights tried kill some proceses virtual manager simmilar , nothing help's , doesnt know linux enought , i have 1 TB data on it cloud backup i don't wan't destroy DSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryTse Posted October 16, 2017 Share #10 Posted October 16, 2017 some problem, I need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKPW Posted October 18, 2017 Share #11 Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Make sure you enable VT(virtualization technology) in your BIOS. I had the same problem and this solved it. Jun's 1.02B, DSM 6.1.3.U7, DS3615xs, i3-4130. Edited October 18, 2017 by MKPW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlgm007 Posted October 19, 2017 Share #12 Posted October 19, 2017 Hi To remove the app. Did this last night as been getting the same error's as above just have not reinstalled to test again. was going to look for virtualbox spk as had that on DSM 5.2 SSH in ls /volume1/@appstore to get a list of apps installed Try synopkg stop Virtualization synopkg uninstall Virtualization OR This will remove all the files rm -rf /volume1/@appstore/Virtualization Reboot and it will be uninstalled on my test vm i had to open package center and the uninstall again and rebooted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filippo333 Posted October 24, 2017 Share #13 Posted October 24, 2017 On 9/22/2017 at 1:41 PM, alainb said: Need Intel CPU with VT-x / VT-d ? I can confirm this worked for me! With VT-x disabled, I kept getting the error about not having enough memory (even though I have 16GB). I guess the error DSM throws up is quite generic since Synology have a compatibility list for VMM and don't expect people running it on "unsupported" devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centeredki69 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted October 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, filippo333 said: I can confirm this worked for me! With VT-x disabled, I kept getting the error about not having enough memory (even though I have 16GB). I guess the error DSM throws up is quite generic since Synology have a compatibility list for VMM and don't expect people running it on "unsupported" devices. So exactly what are you confirming To get the VMM to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toastboy Posted October 25, 2017 Share #15 Posted October 25, 2017 Go into your BIOS and enable everything you have that is associated with virtualization: VT-X, VT-D, etc. Older motherboards have an option just called "Virtualization" or "Virtualization Technology". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted October 25, 2017 Share #16 Posted October 25, 2017 Anyone tried enabling AMD SVM in BIOS? (Secure Virtual Machine - AKA AMD-V) on HP N54L AMD Turion II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centeredki69 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted October 25, 2017 9 hours ago, toastboy said: Go into your BIOS and enable everything you have that is associated with virtualization: VT-X, VT-D, etc. Older motherboards have an option just called "Virtualization" or "Virtualization Technology". Thank you for the suggestion. However this has been enabled in the Bios from the start. I have also reset the Bios to factory settings and then re-enabled VT with still no luck. This makes no sense unless a processor with SLAT is required, which mine does not support. It does support VT. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toastboy Posted October 25, 2017 Share #18 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't know if SLAT is necessary because (according to Intel) my J1900 doesn't support SLAT or VT-X but I have no problems with VMM. I have a Win10 and a Win7 VM on it and I can run either with no problems. I also have another XPE build on a G4620 and it runs a Win7 VM great but will fail on a Win10 install even though it does support VT-D, VT-X and SLAT (according to intel) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centeredki69 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted October 26, 2017 9 hours ago, toastboy said: I don't know if SLAT is necessary because (according to Intel) my J1900 doesn't support SLAT or VT-X but I have no problems with VMM. I have a Win10 and a Win7 VM on it and I can run either with no problems. I also have another XPE build on a G4620 and it runs a Win7 VM great but will fail on a Win10 install even though it does support VT-D, VT-X and SLAT (according to intel) It is either something with the loader or the DMS intall. I put a new HDD in the PC and removed the loader and disconnected the DMS HDD's. I Loaded windows server 2008 with the HyperV role then installed a win-7 OS and it ran great. I re-did the loader and reinstalled the latest DMS and it will not start the VM. "Not enough memory". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centeredki69 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted October 26, 2017 Could someone confirm if a VM powered off on your machine shows the same info as the screen shot below. Meaning yours show 0% for Host CPU and Host memory when your VM is powered off. VM info HOST info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpwalker Posted October 30, 2017 Share #21 Posted October 30, 2017 Does anyone know where VMM saves its virtual machine files? I managed to get VMM deleted and when i reinstalled the virtual machine i had created previously is still there and it doesnt allow me to delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ybogva Posted November 8, 2017 Share #22 Posted November 8, 2017 +1 No problem to delete VMM, but when reinstalled, previous VM's and Btrfs volumes still show up, non working and impossible to delete... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letter6 Posted January 19, 2018 Share #23 Posted January 19, 2018 i have same issue when trying vmm at xpenology (xpenology as esxi 6.5 vm) then i follow this step https://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2012/08/how-to-enable-nested-esxi-other.html and working perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacken Posted January 19, 2018 Share #24 Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 1:28 PM, letter6 said: i have same issue when trying vmm at xpenology (xpenology as esxi 6.5 vm) then i follow this step https://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2012/08/how-to-enable-nested-esxi-other.html and working perfect You save my time, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas1014 Posted January 20, 2018 Share #25 Posted January 20, 2018 On 25/10/2017 at 1:58 PM, ronin said: Anyone tried enabling AMD SVM in BIOS? (Secure Virtual Machine - AKA AMD-V) on HP N54L AMD Turion II? Hi , try enable it with my Asus Am1i-a but after some research synology kernel doesn't get the KVM for Amd driver and it's impossible to load it as a module (extra.lzma). If we want AMD cpu that are fully compatible we need to compile or own synology kernel with "AMD Cpu" and "KVM_ADM" flag enable (and Radeon flag ... in a perfect world) =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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