harbdans Posted February 14, 2023 #1 Posted February 14, 2023 Hi everyone, I recently installed DSM7 using automated redpill loader. Which is an amazing improvement from previous DSM 7 install methods BTW. Anyway, most things are working well. But I can't get virtual machine manager to work. I have tried ubuntu, virtual DSM and home assistant virtual machine and all of them wont power on. When I try to power them on I get an error that says "Failed to power on the virtual machine". Another thing I can't get to work is webdav, but I'm not sure if this is related? There isn't much help in the VMM log - all it says is VM failed to start. I get an error which shows up for about a second in VMM before it says it failed which says "Powering on (no network connection is available)" What I have tried so far: turn on Intel VT in motherboard BIOS changing all the settings I can find within VMM tried private and external network switch in VMM Current hardware: Intel i5 7500 ASUS h110M-A/DP I'm using a PCI NIC which I believe has an intel chip. I can't find the exact name as I bought it a while ago. I was using the same NIC in a different system running DSM6.1 and VMM worked fine. All the network interfaces are showing as normal in the control panel I've been stuck on this for a while and would appreciate any suggestions. Quote
apriliars3 Posted February 15, 2023 #2 Posted February 15, 2023 I think there are two ideas:- netif_num: 1 if you only use 1 mac, 2 or use 2 macs, etc. - Need genuine serial number Synology. Quote
harbdans Posted February 15, 2023 Author #3 Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Firstly, thanks for the reply. And secondly, I have a bit of an update. I was using the DS2422+ loader. So I tried the DVA3221 loader and VMM worked fine. I then tried DS1621+ loader and it also didn't work. So I guess its a loader issue. To be honest I'm not sure what your first point means. I tried Googling it but that didnt really help. But it may be the underlying cause? For me I had 7 drives in my NAS and since I couldn't get DSM installed on any of the DS36XX loaders I guess I will either go to a 4 bay NAS or try something else. If anyone else had any suggestions on how to fix this on the DS2422+/DS1612+ loader that would be greatly appreciated. Edited February 15, 2023 by harbdans updates Quote
theoxis Posted March 15, 2023 #4 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Interesting topic as I ran into the same issues! I've been running DSM 7.1.1-42962 | DS923+ through automated redpill loader. My hardware is as follows: Intel NUC12WSHi3 i3 1220P 32 GB DDR4 3200hz Everything works fine, including Docker. I chose the DS923+ 'version' because it supports NVMe volumes. I have exactly the same issues with the VMM as you describe and also troubleshooted by altering options until I ran out of ideas. I have the feeling it might have to do with my network driver (Intel® Ethernet Controller i225-V) or anything related to Open vSwitch. Also tried 'CPU compatibility mode' btw. No luck! Sidequestion: I've been wondering if using Intel hardware creaters underlying issues as the DS923+ version has been created for a AMD Ryzen R1600 chip. But since evertying but VMM seems to be working fine, I didn't bother. Also the VMM software shows the right amount of CPU threads etc so I figured it supports the multicore functionality etc. Edited March 15, 2023 by theoxis Quote
theoxis Posted March 15, 2023 #5 Posted March 15, 2023 Just to add, intel V and other virtualization features are turned on in the BIOS. Quote
theoxis Posted March 18, 2023 #6 Posted March 18, 2023 After some troubleshooting, it seems to me that Synology VMM only works when you have an intel processor matched with an intel DSM bootloader. So, that would mean one of these: - DS3615xs - DS3617xs - DS3622xs+ - DS918+ - DS920+ - DVA1622 - DVA3221 Unfortunately, none of these supports 'native' NVMe storage. This apparently gets increased under DSM 7.2, but that is still in beta. Moreover, some don't even officially have NVMe ports (also not for cache) not supporting this kind of storage at all. Anyway, seems to me like the DS1621xs+ would be the best of both worlds, but unfortunately that one is not available... Quote
theoxis Posted March 18, 2023 #7 Posted March 18, 2023 Cross reference https://github.com/fbelavenuto/arpl/issues/613 Quote
apriliars3 Posted March 18, 2023 #8 Posted March 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, theoxis said: Cross reference https://github.com/fbelavenuto/arpl/issues/613 Synology VMM only works when you have an intel processor matched with an intel DSM bootloader. I use Proxmox with Intel i3 2120, what DSM Bootloader need to match for working with VMM? Works VMM over virtual DSM like Proxmox, VMWare, EXSI, etc.? Quote
Trabalhador Anonimo Posted March 18, 2023 #9 Posted March 18, 2023 for those who is capable of run VMM: what are the loader and hardware? Quote
drog Posted January 29, 2024 #10 Posted January 29, 2024 created DS3622xs+ loader with pci-e m2 disk for cache. VM start only first time until reboot. Then it stops to work. Quote
Trabalhador Anonimo Posted January 29, 2024 #11 Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) Hi there, I made VM to work in Intel and AMD platform. On Intel, MB Asus B85 with Intel Xeon E3-1240L v3 I could get VM to work with 3622xs+ and M-shell loader. On AMD, M5A78L-M LX/BR, with Phenom II X4, I could only make VM to work with SA6400. (I get the same message ""Failed to power on the virtual machine") if I do with 3622xs+ on this platform.) with M-shell loader. And remember, 95% of Synology hardware has expansion ports, this meas the DS923+ can go up to 9 bays. I do not know how this works on the loader, but it is a thought. Edited January 29, 2024 by Trabalhador Anonimo 1 Quote
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