w84no1 Posted February 19 Share #1901 Posted February 19 I used ARPL 1.1 beta 2 to upgrade from DS3617xs 6.2 to DS3622xs+ 7.1. Everything worked and I updated my packages. I rebooted and it will not come back up. I have 7 disks and it will come back up if I only have 2 or less drives installed. As soon as I add a 3rd disk it will not work. I have tried changing from DEV to PROD, direct boot, and switching back to DS3617xs. The only thing that works is having less than 3 drives installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_matrix Posted February 19 Share #1902 Posted February 19 Hello, Thank you again for this exceptionally well done loader. What is the correct way to update it from the loader menu? I was used to download the .img file and reset the model, serial, etc... but I would like to use the dedicated menu. Should I update everything from it and build the loader again? Or can I boot directly after updating everything? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abced Posted February 19 Share #1903 Posted February 19 On 12/30/2022 at 8:35 PM, idaanx said: This is false but I just noticed the 3615xs does indeed not scale down, this might be because of the mperf kernel module or old kernel, not sure... But I have previously successfully tested the freq. scaling on the 920+ (or 918+ can't remember) and just did it again on the 3622xs. On DSM 7 and these models (and probably the others) there are only 3 governors to choose from, performance is the default set by Synology too. Performance: scales up and down as needed Powersave: stays looked in the lowest frequency Userspace: can be set to a specific upper frequency and also scales down As you can see /proc/cpuinfo doesn't show realtime results, which is also why a lot of people think frequency scaling and turbo boosting is not working even on a real Synology. If I may revive this topic. You should be checking for cpuinfo_cur_freq, that's the info from the HW. Has someone managed to get ondemand or conservative governors on their Xpenology? powersave is too slow, while running cpu at full speed all the time with performance governor is also not optimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_matrix Posted February 19 Share #1904 Posted February 19 ondemand here and working normal. Noticed that energy consumption is lower with this mode (-10 to -15w approx.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abced Posted February 19 Share #1905 Posted February 19 4 hours ago, john_matrix said: ondemand here and working normal. Noticed that energy consumption is lower with this mode (-10 to -15w approx.) What DSM model do you use? I'm using DS918+ and there's only powersave, performance and userspace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigs Posted February 20 Share #1906 Posted February 20 Hi folks, I have a question and hope someone can help. I set up VM DS918 within ESXi. When I try to access it under Windows Explorer/network, It would not let me. It says username or password incorrect. I know they are correct. I have no problem accessing my real Synology NAS. Any idea how I can fix it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_matrix Posted February 20 Share #1907 Posted February 20 12 hours ago, abced said: What DSM model do you use? I'm using DS918+ and there's only powersave, performance and userspace. Disregard my message, I was mistaken about CPU governor Xpenology. Indeed, I have set this parameters in Proxmox that will accept it without any issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w84no1 Posted February 20 Share #1908 Posted February 20 On 2/19/2023 at 12:15 AM, w84no1 said: I used ARPL 1.1 beta 2 to upgrade from DS3617xs 6.2 to DS3622xs+ 7.1. Everything worked and I updated my packages. I rebooted and it will not come back up. I have 7 disks and it will come back up if I only have 2 or less drives installed. As soon as I add a 3rd disk it will not work. I have tried changing from DEV to PROD, direct boot, and switching back to DS3617xs. The only thing that works is having less than 3 drives installed. I installed Proxmox and everything is back up and running. I think I like running it in a VM better than bare metal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royeiror Posted February 22 Share #1909 Posted February 22 Hello everyone, I'm still unable to make ARPL work on my Lenovo M600 ThinkCentre, I have my logs handy, could anyone take a look and help me out? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XTV2jJhTUbTrdqztxAjCP1tCtgRkxmxw/view?usp=share_link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grzywek Posted February 22 Share #1910 Posted February 22 Hi, I can't get Shutdown button working in Proxmox Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphée Posted February 23 Share #1911 Posted February 23 (edited) You may switch from prod to dev for lkm (probably rebuild the loader then). You may also try another loader like DS3622xs+. the DS3615xs should be considered as end of life. Edited February 23 by Orphée Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWAGG3R Posted February 23 Share #1912 Posted February 23 There is a working version 7.1.1 and there HDDs are installed sata in the motherboard and in dsm they are conditional volume 1, 2, etc., if I rearrange these HDDs to the sata port that are PCIE adapter, will something fly off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted February 23 Share #1913 Posted February 23 @fbelavenuto In your menu.sh, it seems to limit the model notation unless it is a platform that requires Intel 4th generation or higher than Haswell, such as DS918+. The standard seems to be the FMA3 instruction. However, the FMA3 command is excluded from reports by Korean users and Pentiums such as the G5500 that I actually use. Celerons starting with J also do not have FMA3 instructions. But as you know, Apollo Lake and Gemini Lake support DS918+ / DS920+. So, I found a new command that does not omit Pentium or Celeron while including the 4th generation of Haswell or higher. That command is MOVBE. There are explanations related to MOVBE as follows. MOVBE (Move Data After Swapping Bytes) command. Supported by Intel Haswell processors. The verification was completed on the CPUs of the corresponding case and flyride was also notified. https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/61634-dsm-7x-loaders-and-platforms/?do=findComment&comment=438801 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted February 24 Share #1914 Posted February 24 (edited) Here's a reference for exactly what MOVBE instruction support is. https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/x86-Options.html Fortunately, no codenames are missing. In the case of AMD, what commands can be used to distinguish them? Edited February 24 by Peter Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted February 24 Share #1915 Posted February 24 Exceptions to codenames included in these MOVBE instructions have been identified. As a result of a test by a Korean Atom pineview D410 user, DS918+ works well. Atom FineView, released in 2010, was the first codename to include MOVBE instructions, and was planned to be included starting with Intel's first-generation Westmere, released in the same 2010, but was not actually included and was included starting with Haswell, released in 2013. started. I think we should pay more attention to the MOVBE guidelines that started with Atom FineView in 2010. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 24 Share #1916 Posted February 24 18 часов назад, Peter Suh сказал: As a result of a test by a Korean Atom pineview D410 user, DS918+ works well. So D525 Atom (Acer Veriton N282G) can be used as well? Hmmm… it's promising, I'll try it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxer Posted February 27 Share #1917 Posted February 27 Hi, I have configured my machine with DS920+ and created Raid5 with additional small SSD as read cache. Is it possible to use this SSD as well as boot drive instead of USB flash drive? When I use SSD as boot device based on ARPL image then this disk is not visible in system. Is it possible to shrink cache partition, copy boot/system partition from USB and forget about USG flash (which is slow especially I have no usb3.0)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Suh Posted February 28 Share #1918 Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Xoxer said: Hi, I have configured my machine with DS920+ and created Raid5 with additional small SSD as read cache. Is it possible to use this SSD as well as boot drive instead of USB flash drive? When I use SSD as boot device based on ARPL image then this disk is not visible in system. Is it possible to shrink cache partition, copy boot/system partition from USB and forget about USG flash (which is slow especially I have no usb3.0)? If you are using MACOS or Linux, you can simply create a loader from the SSD as below in the terminal. disk4 is assumed to be SSD. sudo diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk4 sudo dd if=/Users/myCom/arpl.img of=/dev/disk4 bs=4m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothmove Posted February 28 Share #1919 Posted February 28 My test machine 12700k, Z690 motherboard, 32gb ram using a 3622xs+ and newest DSM. I am using the drives non raid, basic disks. I didn't need a raid. I set up the test bench and have it backing up data from my real synology for cold storage. It is a temporary setup, I didn't do long term testing. I "borrowed" my son's computer while he is in school and have to give it back before he gets off of the bus. Problems- Would not boot twice in a row unless I enabled hot swap in the Bios. Would only boot cold before. Had to install DSM on a separate ssd without any other drives to get it to work. Once in the OS, plugged in and assembled my existing drives. No complaints. I deactivated the E cores as it seemed slower with them on. Just a chiming in on my results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxer Posted February 28 Share #1920 Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Peter Suh said: If you are using MACOS or Linux, you can simply create a loader from the SSD as below in the terminal. disk4 is assumed to be SSD. sudo diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk4 sudo dd if=/Users/myCom/arpl.img of=/dev/disk4 bs=4m I'm not sure if you understand what I mean. I would like to keep the SSD as a cache for the raid volume and use it as a boot drive. For now, I can do one of the two, burn the ARPL image to SSD and use it as a boot disk, or use a USB and use the SSD as a cache. I saw on a forum that someone moved a bootable partition from USB to one of the volume disks because there was enough unallocated space on the disk. On the other hand, SSD Cache disk has only one partition and there is no free space there. When setting up a cache, the synology system asks how much you want to allocate to the cache, but this has no effect on the size of the partition. As far as I understand the commands in linux, your proposal concerns the installation of ARPL on the ssd, which I have already done using Rufus on windows. It would be great to use SSD cache as boot, let me know if that's even possible please. By the way on ARPL's github page it says: "The loader will automatically increase the size of the last partition and use this space as cache if it is larger than 2GiB." What does "cache" mean in this case? What is this partition used for? As the system no longer sees such a disk, I don't think it will be used to speed up reading data from the raid volume. Could you or somebody explain it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rok1 Posted March 1 Share #1921 Posted March 1 (edited) Is there any particular reason as to why one build would be slower doing the same task? OpenVPN Throughput DS920+ 50+mb/s DVA3221+: ~25-30mb/s Same hardware between installs. (i3-7100T) Edited March 1 by rok1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4z33 Posted March 2 Share #1922 Posted March 2 Woke up this morning and my NAS was on, but unreacheable (and so all the VMs and Docker containers). Tried rebooting, but still offline. Hooked up the NAS to my monitor and the ARPL booting seemed OK (see pic here), but the issue was still going on. Ran Ubuntu Live on a USB stick (btw in the same USB port used for ARPL) and all my hardware/Ethernet was 100% OK. What do I do now to debug and find out what's going on here? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphée Posted March 2 Share #1923 Posted March 2 Your pic means nothing. We need serial log output to see what could be the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4z33 Posted March 2 Share #1924 Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Orphée said: Your pic means nothing. We need serial log output to see what could be the issue. OK, but what means "serial log"? What log is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madeuh Posted March 2 Share #1925 Posted March 2 HI, i've tried to install the last version of the launcher on ESXI 7. When i launch THE DSm for install i've got the error failed to format disk DS3622xs+ Build 42962 satamap port show 1 drive on stata 0 and one drive on sata 1 If someone can help me or if you want somme debug or screen Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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