meimeiriver 1 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Where's jun when you need him for a new loader?! Seriously, I appreciate all the work done by the coders; but yeah, it looks like I'm going to wait this one out, until an entirely new loader exists. Boohoo, an update came out and the dev wasn't magically able to make it work in a matter of days. What were you expecting, seriously? A bit of a strange reaction, don't you think?! Especially since all I really said was that I appreciate all the work done by the coders, but that it really looks like I will just need to wait a bit before a new loader comes -- OMG, the horror of saying such a thing! (Yeah, mate, that was sarcasm, in case you didn't realize it). In fact it looks like I -- and apparently others -- have learned from last time, and have not hastily upgraded our system. That's a good thing. My current .9 install still runs fine. I can afford to wait it out. So can you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hannibal1969 7 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Well I did some tests. I have here several NICs. There is no significant difference between the onboard Realtec 81111GR, intel Gigabit CT desktop adapter and HP NC 110T. All of them fluctuate between 75 / 90MBs with iperf. The onboard performs even better then the HPNC110T. From windows or OSX i get transferspeeds of about 110MBs based on SMB3. Quite okay! (I use all my disks as individual drives so no raid, all of them are "basic"). So for me there is no reason for a no buy of the j3455 except from turbo boost which would be a nice bonus if it wwas working. I enabled my onboard nic again I am running DSM 6.0.2 on the ASRock J3455M (bare metal) and experienced some rather weird issues with the speed of the onboard Realtek RTL8111E chip. See the full details here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25026 After throwing in the Intel PCIe NIC and disabling the onboard Realtek chip, everything worked very smoothly. I read that topic ... this : I noticed that when downloading a file from DSM via SMB, there is a HUGE drawback in speed when I access it via its hostname (like \\mydiskstation). Download speed ranges from <1 MB/s to ~2.5 MB/s depending on the client I run the test on. Then I use the IP address instead (like \\192.168.1.10) everything is fine and I download at full GBit speed (up to 110 MB/s). Do you really its the realtek? This must be a hostname resolving issue. Multihomed nics / wifi? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TWiST 0 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I was lucky to downgrade from 6.1 to 6.0 U9. It is not so hard as it seems. Maybe tomorrow I'll provide a guide, but now I'm falling asleep. Yes please do enlighten us on your procedure as I am getting the uneasy feeling that many people will start updating to 6.1 and then start crying like babies. I am currently advising this method viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13288 by adapting the version numbers but since I haven't tried it myself I can vouch for that. And if they do, they only have themselves to blame. I got no sympathy for 90% of the lazy community here that cannot even be bother to make a cursory Google search for ANYTHING. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hannibal1969 7 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I was lucky to downgrade from 6.1 to 6.0 U9. It is not so hard as it seems. Maybe tomorrow I'll provide a guide, but now I'm falling asleep. Yes please do enlighten us on your procedure as I am getting the uneasy feeling that many people will start updating to 6.1 and then start crying like babies. I am currently advising this method viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13288 by adapting the version numbers but since I haven't tried it myself I can vouch for that. And if they do, they only have themselves to blame. I got no sympathy for 90% of the lazy community here that cannot even be bother to make a cursory Google search for ANYTHING. Sure I agree its true they have to blame themselves, but its no so black white as you say. Update 9 was also mentioned here by few that they upgraded and was successful. I'm also on U9 but after a while Polanskiman reported that its better to stay at U8 because there are some issues with U9. But see thats the problem some report it works and others start to upgrade so its never failsafe because not everything can be tested. And you didn't make a mistake in your life? And was that mistake not searchable by Google? I'm always a little bit cautious with targeting people to be stupid without google searching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waspsoton 0 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Anyone updated to 6.1 yet?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polanskiman 442 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Yes please do enlighten us on your procedure as I am getting the uneasy feeling that many people will start updating to 6.1 and then start crying like babies. I am currently advising this method viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13288 by adapting the version numbers but since I haven't tried it myself I can vouch for that. And if they do, they only have themselves to blame. I got no sympathy for 90% of the lazy community here that cannot even be bother to make a cursory Google search for ANYTHING. Sure I agree its true they have to blame themselves, but its no so black white as you say. Update 9 was also mentioned here by few that they upgraded and was successful. I'm also on U9 but after a while Polanskiman reported that its better to stay at U8 because there are some issues with U9. But see thats the problem some report it works and others start to upgrade so its never failsafe because not everything can be tested. And you didn't make a mistake in your life? And was that mistake not searchable by Google? I'm always a little bit cautious with targeting people to be stupid without google searching. There is a difference between update 9 and DSM 6.1. The announcement I made for update 9 was a recommendation following reports of people being unable to reboot their boxes. It was merely a recommendation since some people (and myself included) were able to apply update 9 without major problems. On the other hand DSM 6.1 is a entirely different thing. I did not issue a recommendation; I issued a clear "NO GO, danger zone, hell broke loose waning". Update to DSM 6.1 and you WILL have a bricked box permanently unless you are able to revert to DSM 6.0.2 update 9. Hopefully Jun will update the loader once the source code of DMS 6.1 is out, or someone else is able to come with a new loader, who knows. For now people, STAY on DSM 6.0.2 Update 9. DO NO update to DSM 6.1 Edited February 25, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polanskiman 442 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Anyone updated to 6.1 yet?? Read above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trantor 11 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hidroela 0 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hi and thanks for those involved in this project. got a question my setup is ASRock Q1900-ITX with 8gb of ram and a SYBA PCI-Express SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card (Chipset: Marvell 88SE9215). what should be the SataPortMap configuration to make the PCI-Express SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card work. as off right now the motherboard 4 sata are full and the setup without the PCI-Express SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card is working wonderfully. Edit:just plug the SYBA PCI-Express and did works not edits in the SataPortMap, i got it set to 4. edit 2:after a reboot thePCI-Express SATA III does not show any more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jun 197 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schnapps 2 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Update for 6.1 loader at https://mega.nz/#F!18kB1BTB!1ft3N5Hnrcn ... A!5kcjyJ7R THANKS Jun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salah 1 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 THat was fast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derrickang 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hi guys, I am keen to Install DSM 6 on my baremetal server. my baremetal Install is currently smoothly with version 5.2 5644. I have tried Jun's loader but the DSM's internal IP was never found so later I checked that the onboard supermicro NIC or Ethernet chipset, Intel 82576 may not have it's driver included in Jun's bootloader. Oh man, look like I may have to either: A. Use a stable version of 5.2 that includes my existing Ethernet chipset drivers. OR B. Buy a new Ethernet PCI-E card with a supported chipset and then use version 6 with Jun's bootloader. **If I go with option B. , do I need to disable the onboard Supermicro NIC during the install? Or will Jun's bootloader automatically detect all available NICs and use the one with supported drivers to put out DSM's internal network IP? Any one familiar with this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
koroziv 10 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Thanks; imported the vm on esxi 6.5 and installed 6.1 wit the .pat file from synology; so far all ok, didn't test further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mXfored 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Installed on a proxmox4.4 KVM host today, Howoto Prepare - create a new vm with 1 drive _SATA0_, 50MB, qcow2 (not virtio, not SCSI) .. lets call this VM with the id 100 - again i assume your VMID is 100 for now, replace ALL 100 strings in the commands if you have something else ( to be expected, right ) - add a e1000 network card (NOT virtio) - download juni 6.0.2 - 1.0.1 ( https://mega.nz/#F!18kB1BTB!1ft3N5Hnrcn ... A!k5NxiIjI ) .. see the original first post for updates viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20216 - unzip, convert the ESXI-base image with: qemu-img convert synoboot.img -O qcow2 synoboot.qcow2 - copy synoboot.qcow2 s over the disk you created before in proxmox cp synoboot.qcow2 /var/lib/vz/images/100/vm-100-disk-1.qcow2 Now you should use passthrough to add you storage-drives, again, use SATA (not SCSI and not virtio) - to do this use as often you have drives. Repeat this with all drives, qm set 100 -sata1 /dev/sdb If you have more drives qm set 100 -sata2 /dev/sdc (notice the sata2, for slot 2) Installation: - download DSM_DS3615xs_8451.pat from the original sources: https://usdl.synology.com/download/DSM/ ... s_8451.pat - do NOT use any other version for now - Just boot the VM now, AND select "barebone" NOT Vmware/ESXI ( this will not detect your extra drive later) - you will see "booting kernel.." an nothing more, thats all fine, use your synology assistant to install Update: - after the boot, go to upgrades and select "only important updates", then install update9. - do not install 6.1 since this will for now brick your box, also with the new 6.1 - 1.0.2-alpha loader - i had to hard-reset my VM after the first reboot on the update, but then everything worked just fine Edited February 26, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kahooli 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Update for 6.1 loader at https://mega.nz/#F!18kB1BTB!1ft3N5Hnrcn ... A!5kcjyJ7R THANKS Jun! I can see in the grub.cfg file the AMD loader is commented out, does this mean that those using Gen7 HP Microservers have to wait a little longer? Just wanted to make sure before trying to use this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jun 197 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 I can see in the grub.cfg file the AMD loader is commented out, does this mean that those using Gen7 HP Microservers have to wait a little longer? Just wanted to make sure before trying to use this. Yes, AMD loader need some extra work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kahooli 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I can see in the grub.cfg file the AMD loader is commented out, does this mean that those using Gen7 HP Microservers have to wait a little longer? Just wanted to make sure before trying to use this. Yes, AMD loader need some extra work. Thanks jun, will wait eagerly for that update Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fosi 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Awesome Jun! having a bit of trouble! can someone please help me on this? Just tried to reinstall the loader, at first everything seems fine, take a look... 1º boot with baremetal reinstall option 2º go http://find.synology.com and choose connect (it shows the ip mac and says migratable) 3º it says that "we've detected that the hard drives had been moved from a previous and installing a new dam is required" 4º i hit migrate and it starts to download and install 5º the system reboots and goes to the screen that says "happy hacking note: this is a alpha build.." 6º i try to find.synology.com but nothing shows up! maybe the network drivers doesn't come up? ...a the third try it went well thanks again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THobbes 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Thx June for your Great work. The new bootloader recover my data and works with the dsm 6.1 on our hp gen8. Best wishes, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mXfored 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Thx June for your Great work. The new bootloader recover my data and works with the dsm 6.1 on our hp gen8.Best wishes, Tom Hey Tom, interesting. Thats how i installed my Xpenology viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20216&start=1990#p92047 I am also using a Gen8 (though/also with Proxmox) I have a test VM i tried the 1.0.2 alpha bootloader with, but actually i could never discover it with the synology assistent ( network card issue ) - so basically e1000 is not working probably, i do not exactly know. What setup do you have with 6.1 / 1.0.2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derrickang 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Clean OP, add link to Pokanskiman's tutorial and add download mirror. DMS 6.1 uses updated kernel (3.10.102). The kernel sources for 6.0.2 (3.10.77) has not been released yet so don't hope anything from Syno before months. Like before no sources = no loader jun's v1.01 loader CAN'T support DSM 6.1 so DO NOT UPGRADE ! I've rebased the vendor changes on 3.10.77 to 3.10.102, seems still works. Dear Jun, I checked that my onboard supermicro NIC or Ethernet chipset, Intel 82576 may not have it's driver included in the 1.01 version of your bootloader. To install DSM, would you suggest that I either: A. Use a stable version of 5.2 that includes my existing Ethernet chipset drivers? OR B. Buy a new Ethernet PCI-E card with a supported chipset and then use version 6 with version 1.01 of your bootloader? **If I go with option B. , do I need to disable the onboard Supermicro NIC during the install? Or will your bootloader automatically detect all available NICs and use the one with supported drivers to put out DSM's internal network IP? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigor 32 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Where did you get last kernel source? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunterok 2 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 6º i try to find.synology.com but nothing shows up! maybe the network drivers doesn't come up? ...a the third try it went well Didn't work for me too when I tried to update from 6.02 U9. So I performed a clean install and it works well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolvince 0 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I do a test. Migration from a 6.0 (quicknick) to 6.1 (Jun's 1.02) ... Migration, installation in manual mode of the file "DSM_DS3615xs_15047.pat" Install OK Reboot OK Loggin to DSM OK Volume EXT4 raid 5 (5x 500GB HDD) OK Data saved OK SHIFT apps OK Everything is ok for me ... Attention passing from SurveillanceStation to 8.0.1-5128 Patch not available for this version it seems to me ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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