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Just wanted to say that this case is super sexy and a great build for XPENOLOGY.

 

Case - http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17617

ASRock QC5000-ITX/PH - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157595

8GB Crucial DDR3 Ram - http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix ... ge_o01_s00

24 Pin ATX Extension - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-8-Inch-P ... ge_o00_s00

Seasonic 300W PSU - http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SS-300M1 ... ge_o02_s00

LSI 9211-8i SAS (comes pre-flashed with IT mode for mine) - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... S&_sacat=0

WD 6TB Red HDD's.

 

Getting max Gigabit throughput on this motherboard / setup. Disabled onboard audio / SATA / etc.

 

Cost about $400 in parts (not counting drives)

 

**EDIT**

 

Forgot to mention that I also needed to buy a SATA to MOLEX Y adapter - http://www.amazon.com/15-Pin-Female-Spl ... B002LBROAA

=)

 

If you have any questions on the build let me know.

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Thank you for sharing all the details and links for your build :smile:

 

Do you think this would be a comparable build to the 1815+? (https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Station ... 00P3RPMEO/)

 

I was contemplating an 8bay official synology but if I can build one for $400, that sounds even better :smile:

 

I have no experience with SAS, but i'd love to learn about it. It's definitely overkill since i'll never really need to hotswap, but sounds like fun to me :smile:

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You can build them cheaper than you can buy them (it's always that case)

 

Mini SAS isn't hard. Just buy a compatible SAS card like the 9211 and make sure it's in IT mode and it's plug and play.

 

The only downside(s) of a non-official build would be the following.

 

Currently doesn't support DSM 6 (coming I'm sure)

Doesn't include 4 NIC's for teaming (but if you go with a larger case or build it would). If you don't do NIC teaming it's a moot point.

 

The upsides include the following

 

faster hardware / better hardware support

ESXi support / Hyper V support

etc. etc. etc.

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Thansk for the quick response :smile:

 

I won't be using ESXi or Hyper V. Do you think this build is overkill for me? I will be using it to potentially transcode and other cpu intensive tasks, so I'd like a robust system, not something that i might have to upgrade in just a year or two.

 

I definitely won't be needing NIC teaming :smile:

 

Edit: i'm currently running xpenology on an old nas unit i built years ago, so this is the first one i have built specifically for xpenology :smile:

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I have the same doubt... I want to buil a new Xpenology NAS with, at least, 8 HDD and I was thinking into a "Node 304 Black". (it´s cheap :grin: )

 

In this threat I make a question viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14380 an @redpineapple tell me to try a UNAS NSC-800 and I think the hot swap it´s a usefull resource.

 

After a little research and some comparatives, I think the best price/quality/benefits its the DS380, at least into a home enviroment.

 

What do you think?

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mini SAS > standard case builds imho. It's quicker / faster / and easier to work on once it's installed.

 

Costs a bit more, but it's worth it.

 

If you want to transcode more than one stream in Plex get a dedicated CPU on an 1150 intel socket or FM2+ board

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redpineapple, thanks for the response.

 

It looks like the QC5000 is sold out :sad: is there a similar board you would recommend?

 

I'm currently running xpenology on this board: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006Q4MLUQ/ Do you think the QC5000 or a comparable board will be a big improvement? I'm willing to step up to an 1150 socket intel board with cpu, but i really liked being able to follow someone's exact build that is guaranteed to be working 100% :\

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Why not a more simply itx? Like N3150 or N3700?

 

I understand that a "PCIe 2.0 x16" it´s usefull for an expansion SATA card... but maybe a N3150 could fit as well. Isn´t?

 

If I plan to upgrade an N3150 with a sata card like these;

 

http://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controll ... +sata+port

 

http://www.amazon.com/Bplus-PM1061-SATA ... -size+sata

 

Can someone tell me if this will work fine with a xpenology? A cheap ITX MB with all expansion cards and 10 HDD it´s a tentative option :grin:

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redpineapple, thanks for the response.

 

It looks like the QC5000 is sold out :sad: is there a similar board you would recommend?

 

I'm currently running xpenology on this board: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006Q4MLUQ/ Do you think the QC5000 or a comparable board will be a big improvement? I'm willing to step up to an 1150 socket intel board with cpu, but i really liked being able to follow someone's exact build that is guaranteed to be working 100% :\

 

The QC5000 is better than what you have, but save your $$$ unless you plan on running PLEX or other heavy CPU intensive tasks on your nas.

 

The board you listed is an ITX and passively cooled, and it will also fit in the NSC-800 (any ITX will in theory)

 

There are really only 3parts to an Xpenology build (to make it work hardware wise). 1. NIC with supported drivers - 2. storage controller drivers (SATA / SAS / etc.) 3. x86/x64 CPU - (in other words you can't run this on a marvell CPU or other 3rd systems like WD Cloud hardware

 

By going with a supported expansion card (SAS or otherwise) it removes some of the guess work of what storage controller chipset is on the board. If you have a BRAND new motherboard that doesn't have the SATA drivers supported in Xpenology yet, you can always run a supported expansion card like an LSI controller / etc.

 

I should also mention that this thread talks about the NSC-800. The main reason I like this case / build is that it includes everything you need to get up and running out of the box right away, and comes pre-wired. It makes it fool proof for A-LOT of the issues people have with unsupported chipsets or sata controllers on their boards.

 

The NSC-800 supports 8 hotswap drives and up to 4 more 2.5 inch drives above as well if you want to get creative.

 

eleazar - please note that virtually any xpenology sytem supports hot swap functionality. You can take your current system and plug in another drive (sata and power) while the machine is running and your PC should detect and allow you to mount / access it / add it to your drive pool.

 

In regards to your question about "will this work", the answer really comes down to 1,2,3 listed above. If you can find someone that has reported that specific NIC / sata controller works you should be on your way. The rest really comes down to what you want to DO with your hardware. Are you planning on running it bare metal or do you plan on doing ESXI? Do you plan on having the NAS be just a NAS, or do you want to run Plex / etc. on it?

 

The more features or functions you add or want to use, the more hardware you are going to want.

 

My only suggestion is to keep a 1TB to 1GB ratio on ram. If you have 8TB of space have 8GB of ram. The more ram you have, the more it will use as swap when transferring large files.

 

**please note**

I added one more item to my first post in this thread of item(s) I used for my build. I forgot to mention that I needed to purchase a SATA to Molex Y splitter. Something similar to this - http://www.amazon.com/15-Pin-Female-Spl ... B002LBROAA

 

As always.... let me know if you have any questions.

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redpineapple, thanks so much for your thorough response.

 

I ordered the NSC-800 yesterday, hoping it won't take too long to arrive. :smile:

 

I also ordered the LSI card you recommended (this one exactly http://www.ebay.com/itm/252344098349 but it was $118 when i bought it)

 

Now that I have a fully compatible SAS card, I think i might try to find a newer mobo with a dedicated CPU as I like to install lots of applications on my xpenology box (ie. more than just a streaming server) and would like for it to be able to handle everything for years to come. I'm thinking I'll also just buy 16GB of ram now, so I'm future proof as I add more space.

 

Planning to buy your power supply this morning as well. :smile:

 

I guess I should verify whatever RAM i buy will work with whatever motherboard I buy :\

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Thank you redpineapple for your response.

 

I thought (bad) that any working compatible linux expansion card would work in a xpenology NAS.

 

If you say that LSI 9211-8i SA will work for all 8 disk it´s OK to me... the problem is that found a UNAS NSC-800 case to my country isn´t easy :cry:

 

I thank you for your advice with that MB and with a LSI... I will think about it... but maybe with a Node 304 Black :lol::lol:

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One last thing to note... (I may have mentioned it but if not....) the PSU I linked is a Flex ATX not a full 1U (slightly smaller). As a result you'll need a bracket to mount it, or just stick something under it like a 2.5 inch drive.

 

note a huge deal breaker, but wanted to at least give someone the heads up. :grin: The fact that under 50% load it's silent beats the fact that the 1U server PSU's get loud and hot.

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One last thing to note... (I may have mentioned it but if not....) the PSU I linked is a Flex ATX not a full 1U (slightly smaller). As a result you'll need a bracket to mount it, or just stick something under it like a 2.5 inch drive.

 

note a huge deal breaker, but wanted to at least give someone the heads up. :grin: The fact that under 50% load it's silent beats the fact that the 1U server PSU's get loud and hot.

 

Ah bummer, I was hoping it would fit perfectly. I don't have any 2.5" drives.

 

Did you use a bracket of some kind? Trying to get an idea of what I should keep an eye out for

 

My case should be here Tuesday :smile:

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interesting case that UNAS NSC-800, good for small offices environments... but I rather use a Norco RPC-4224 :grin: 24 HDDs, and I can use any size from mini to including full blown ATX motherboards to run that thing

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Just wanted to say that this case is super sexy and a great build for XPENOLOGY.

 

Case - http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17617

ASRock QC5000-ITX/PH - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157595

8GB Crucial DDR3 Ram - http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix ... ge_o01_s00

24 Pin ATX Extension - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-8-Inch-P ... ge_o00_s00

Seasonic 300W PSU - http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SS-300M1 ... ge_o02_s00

LSI 9211-8i SAS (comes pre-flashed with IT mode for mine) - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... S&_sacat=0

WD 6TB Red HDD's.

 

 

If you have any questions on the build let me know.

 

Hi mate,

I just bought ASRock QC5000-ITX/PH, RAM and LSI. They're still on packages. Now looking for case and PSU (No U-NAS supplier in Spain).

Please, let me one question. Did you manage to flash MAC to the QC5000? You know, for Syno valid MAC and WOL working.

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Just wanted to say that this case is super sexy and a great build for XPENOLOGY.

 

Case - http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17617

ASRock QC5000-ITX/PH - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157595

8GB Crucial DDR3 Ram - http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix ... ge_o01_s00

24 Pin ATX Extension - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-8-Inch-P ... ge_o00_s00

Seasonic 300W PSU - http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SS-300M1 ... ge_o02_s00

LSI 9211-8i SAS (comes pre-flashed with IT mode for mine) - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... S&_sacat=0

WD 6TB Red HDD's.

 

 

If you have any questions on the build let me know.

 

Hi mate,

I just bought ASRock QC5000-ITX/PH, RAM and LSI. They're still on packages. Now looking for case and PSU (No U-NAS supplier in Spain).

Please, let me one question. Did you manage to flash MAC to the QC5000? You know, for Syno valid MAC and WOL working.

 

you dont need to patch, just fix the config in the bootloader

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