ozef 3 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) il y a 10 minutes, scoobdriver a dit : OK I was not aware that was possible , I thought you had to use the 918+ platform to support HW transcoding (which doesn't support the CPU in the Gen8 ) Well, it's quite possible that it is undoable I saw some topics talking about the nvidia runtime library and able to see their Nvidia GPU with some manual copy of drivers but even that, i'm not able to see my gpu. I'm wondering if we can install 918+ loader on hp microserv gen8 Edited September 16, 2021 by ozef Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orphée 216 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, ozef said: Well, it's quite possible that it is undoable I saw some topics talking about the nvidia runtime library and able to see their Nvidia GPU with some manual copy of drivers but even that, i'm not able to see my gpu. I'm wondering if we can install 918+ loader on hp microserv gen8 As already stated many times, you can't install DS918+ loader on gen8. CPU is too old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pocopico 549 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, ozef said: Well, as my CPU does not have GPU integrated, i bought a nvidia card to have H/W transcoding on my JellyFin server. So i'd really like that we can inject nvidia drivers in any way to get that H/W transcode working Anyway TTG is working on getting a solution for extra modules. Until then, you should be able to load the modules after the installation is completed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ozef 3 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 il y a 16 minutes, Orphée a dit : As already stated many times, you can't install DS918+ loader on gen8. CPU is too old. Well, you don't even know what CPU i have Maybe you are talking about the chipset and not the original CPU ? Actually i'm on Xeon 1275 V2. il y a 14 minutes, pocopico a dit : Anyway TTG is working on getting a solution for extra modules. Until then, you should be able to load the modules after the installation is completed. Good to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orphée 216 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, ozef said: Well, you don't even know what CPU i have Maybe you are talking about the chipset and not the original CPU ? Actually i'm on Xeon 1275 V2. Good to know No matter the CPU you have, too old. play with words if you like. it does not change the fact DS918+ will never work on gen8. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p33ps 0 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, ozef said: Well, you don't even know what CPU i have Maybe you are talking about the chipset and not the original CPU ? Actually i'm on Xeon 1275 V2. Good to know No matter what CPU model you have as the chipset accepted by Gen8 is the Ivy Bridge model. However, DS918 boot is for Haswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nemesis122 29 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Also with the redpill loader and DSM 255556 the Gen8 has problem shutdown or kernel panic the same as i have with redpill and DSM 7 The shutdown was happen when i was installing some packets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pocopico 549 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ozef said: Well, you don't even know what CPU i have Maybe you are talking about the chipset and not the original CPU ? Actually i'm on Xeon 1275 V2. 918 doesnt even work as a VM on ESXi on Gen8. One of the reasons i upgraded to a Ryzen system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orphée 216 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Did someone try Synology Photo on DSM 7 ? is it something expected ? : Edit : It seems to happen when I upload a picture with Firefox browser. does not happen with Chromium... Edited September 16, 2021 by Orphée Quote Link to post Share on other sites
havast 2 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 22 hours ago, ghtester said: I can confirm working DS3615xs_7.0.1-42214 as VM on ESXi 6.0, using bootloader compiled recently with @haydibe's great tool 0.7.3. The VM configuration - latest virtual hardware available in ESXi 6.0, custom config - Guest OS Family = Other, Guest OS Version = Other (64-bit), 1 socket - 2 CPU, Memory 2048, Network Adapter E1000e, add 2 SATA controlleres, HDD1=bootloader-SATA 1:0, HDD2=OS-SATA0:0. In VM BIOS changed boot order to HDD2. Bootloader - select SATA boot. Bootloader cmdline used / changed - syno_hdd_detect=1 DiskIdxMap=0 SataPortMap=12 SasIdxMap=0 HddHotplug=1 Thanks! Working like a charm. Now i have only 1 problem. I have to pass through to the VM 2 BroadCom NetExtreme NICs. Unfortunatelly the syno didnt recognise them. ) Maybe missing drivers i think. Any suggestions? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WiteWulf 145 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, havast said: I have to pass through to the VM 2 BroadCom NetExtreme NICs. Unfortunatelly the syno didnt recognise them. ) Maybe missing drivers i think. Any suggestions? Don't pass them through. Set up a vswitch in ESXi with the Broadcom NIC(s) as uplinks to your LAN and present e1000e adapters to the VM. They're supported in redpill/DSM7.x afaik Edited September 16, 2021 by WiteWulf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p33ps 0 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 For any reason, DSM 7 didn't recognize all of my 4 x LVM passthrough HDDs in Proxmox (it just recognizes 1 of them). Should I add any type of driver or something? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdull 27 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, p33ps said: For any reason, DSM 7 didn't recognize all of my 4 x LVM passthrough HDDs in Proxmox (it just recognizes 1 of them). Should I add any type of driver or something? Thanks! it should work if you only have a few and make rdm as SATA drives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orphée 216 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Do I miss something with Face Detection Synology photos on DS3615xs DSM7 ? (valid SN and MAC) From /var/log/messages Quote 2021-09-16T16:19:26+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[17672]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/face-extraction/main.cpp:38 Exception: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/core/daemonize.cpp:22 previous daemon is alive 2021-09-16T16:40:55+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-bin-team-library-tool[25555]: /source/synofoto/src/lib/io/channel.cpp:79 channel[/run/synofoto/task-center.socket] construct failed: connect: No such file or directory 2021-09-16T16:40:55+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-bin-team-library-tool[25555]: /source/synofoto/src/lib/io/channel.cpp:79 channel[/run/synofoto/notify-center.socket] construct failed: connect: No such file or directory 2021-09-16T16:43:56+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[27903]: Process synofoto-face-e[25753](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:43:57+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[27903]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [25261648] 2021-09-16T16:44:01+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28028]: Process synofoto-face-e[27929](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:44:03+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28028]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [22831710] 2021-09-16T16:44:07+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28056]: Process synofoto-face-e[28048](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:44:08+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28056]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [20415581] 2021-09-16T16:44:12+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28099]: Process synofoto-face-e[28087](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:44:13+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28099]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [20419037] 2021-09-16T16:44:56+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28582]: Process synofoto-face-e[28126](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:44:57+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28582]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [13412093] 2021-09-16T16:45:01+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28659]: Process synofoto-face-e[28612](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:45:02+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28659]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [13407307] 2021-09-16T16:45:06+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28728]: Process synofoto-face-e[28687](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:45:07+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28728]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [13413575] 2021-09-16T16:45:11+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28871]: Process synofoto-face-e[28847](/volume1/@appstore/SynologyPhotos/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction) dumped core on signal [8]. Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz]. Cmdline [/var/packages/SynologyPhotos/target/usr/sbin/synofoto-face-extraction ] 2021-09-16T16:45:12+01:00 Xpen_70 coredump[28871]: Core file [/volume1/@synofoto-face-e.core.gz] size [13411801] From /var/log/synofoto.log Quote 021-09-16T16:44:01+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 1 2021-09-16T16:44:01+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[27929]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:44:07+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 2 2021-09-16T16:44:07+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28048]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:44:12+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 3 2021-09-16T16:44:12+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28087]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:94 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, clean task 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 7, type 4 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 9, type 4 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 10, type 4 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 11, type 4 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 12, type 4 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/process/process_daemon_action.cpp:58 Reload File Extension 2021-09-16T16:44:14+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-notify-center[25738]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/notify-center/process.cpp:45 Reload File Extension 2021-09-16T16:44:56+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/plugin_monitor_send_request.cpp:71 send unload plugin 4 2021-09-16T16:44:56+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/person/face_extraction_queue.cpp:172 FaceExtractionQueue Collecting 2021-09-16T16:44:56+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28126]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:45:01+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 1 2021-09-16T16:45:01+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:84 send unload plugin 4 2021-09-16T16:45:01+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28612]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:45:06+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 2 2021-09-16T16:45:06+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:84 send unload plugin 4 2021-09-16T16:45:06+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28687]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:45:11+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue_base.cpp:61 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, retry 3 2021-09-16T16:45:11+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:84 send unload plugin 4 2021-09-16T16:45:11+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-face-extraction[28847]: /source/synophoto-plugin-face/src/face_plugin/main.cpp:22 face plugin init 2021-09-16T16:45:13+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:94 Plugin wake up pkg-SynologyPhotos-face-extraction, clean task 2021-09-16T16:45:13+01:00 Xpen_70 synofoto-task-center[25605]: /source/synofoto/src/daemon/task-center/plugin-monitor/sended_task_queue.cpp:97 Delete task user_id 1, unit_id 8, type 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p33ps 0 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, mcdull said: it should work if you only have a few and make rdm as SATA drives. Do you mean to add it as raw SATA disk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcdull 27 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 if you say passthrough, it will be raw SATA disk. if you add lvm as qcow, it is not passthrough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GhostlyCrowd 4 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Has anyone got bromolo 7.0.1 ata_piix.ko (ich7 sata) (CONFIG_ATA_PIIX) ips.ko (ibm server raid) (CONFIG_SCSI_IPS) and skge.ko (marvel youkon network adapter) (CONFIG_SKGE) compiled, apparently my skills are not t hat great i cannot get the modules to load so there must be something wrong with the way im doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoobdriver 23 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 @WiteWulf Out of interest are you passing any additional Parameters for the onboard b120i sata controller SataIdxMap , SataPortMap etc ? Just going to try using the onboard controller in ACHI mode , as HBA support doesn't seem quite there yet . Do we still need to pass SataIdxMap=0C00 to pass the USB boot to position 13 , etc ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apriliars3 12 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, nemesis122 said: from Haydibe 0.73 docker file created redpillloader (redpill-DS3615xs_7.0.1-42214_b1631729759.img) bromolow-7.0.1-42214 installed with this PAT file from the compiler itself (ds3615xs_42214.pat) on my HP gen8 nic intel X520 SFP+ x2 all is working but when i set a docker container as example JD2 the system shutdown and reboot I think this is NIC driver Related how can i compile or add this linux driver to the loader or the installed server ? https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/39776/intel-ethernet-converged-network-adapter-x520-da2.html thank you for all tips and help EDIT : it seems is fixed with this file from this thread thank you for the creator. Also tested/compiled Redpill Loader with redpill-DS3615xs_6.2.4-25556_b1631723311.img DSM 25556 (pat file ds3615xs_25556.pat) this one is working great and Rock solid. rd.gz.microserver.7z 8.08 MB · 16 downloads I have HP Microserver Gen 8 with Nic Intel and created redpill-DS3615xs_7.0.1-42214_b1631729759.img with the file rd.gz and works nic Broadcom, but when I try to install this version with micro sd or pendrive stop install on 56%. What is the problem? I put DSM_DS3615xs_42214.pat for install from Synology downloads. Thanks Edited September 16, 2021 by apriliars3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nemesis122 29 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, apriliars3 said: I have HP Microserver Gen 8 with Nic Intel and created redpill-DS3615xs_7.0.1-42214_b1631729759.img with the file rd.gz and works nic Broadcom, but when I try to install this version with micro sd or pendrive stop install on 56%. What is the problem? I put DSM_DS3615xs_42214.pat for install from Synology downloads. Thanks 1)take your correct vid and pid file from the usb key 2)update your vid and pid in the config file or change it with osvmount i think is better when you use the .pat file from your redpilloader loader libary Edited September 16, 2021 by nemesis122 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haydibe 310 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Everytime when I think, there is nothing left to optimize on the toolchain builder someone commes around and finds something that makes sense to be added... Thus said, here is the v0.9 of the toolchain builder. - added sha256 cheksum for kernel and toolkit-dev downloads in `global_config.json`. The item `"download_urls"` is renamed to `"downloads"` and has a new structure. Make sure to allign your custom <platform version> configurations to the new structure when copying them into the `global_config.json` - check checksum of kernel or toolkit-dev when building the image and fail if checksums missmatch. Will not delete the corrupt file! - added`"docker.custom_bind_mounts"` in `global_config.json` to add as many custom bind-mounts as you want, set `"docker.use_custom_bind_mounts":` to `"true"` enable the feature. - fixed: only download kernel or toolkit-dev required to build the image (always downloaded both before, but only used either one of them when building the image) - added simple precondition check to see if required tools are available See README.md for usage. redpill-tool-chain_x86_64_v0.9.zip Edited September 16, 2021 by haydibe 6 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
altas 33 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) i got it work after a lot of Linux learnings to build the Image for my GEN8 with Intel NIC i did not get anymore the this Stop at the Boot process. Quote [ 12.493384] <redpill/intercept_driver_register.c:140> Calling for DWATCH_STATE_LIVE [ 12.495784] <redpill/virtual_uart.c:710> serial8250 driver loaded - adding queued ports [ 12.498239] <redpill/virtual_uart.c:719> Processing enqueued port 1 [ 12.500190] <redpill/virtual_uart.c:812> Registering ttyS1 (io=0x2f8) in the driver The InfoCenter is current empty.. seems somewhere in this thread is hint to that problem i migrated from a 6.2 installation to DSM 7.0.41222 and did not loos any of my Test Data what i have befor copied on the NAS Edited September 16, 2021 by altas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pocopico 549 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, apriliars3 said: I have HP Microserver Gen 8 with Nic Intel and created redpill-DS3615xs_7.0.1-42214_b1631729759.img with the file rd.gz and works nic Broadcom, but when I try to install this version with micro sd or pendrive stop install on 56%. What is the problem? I put DSM_DS3615xs_42214.pat for install from Synology downloads. Thanks Try this rd (7.0.1-42214), which also is the current version of redpill (v0.5-git-f3fcc22). It also makes use of Jumkey extra modules load patch and starts inetd for telnet to the system and troubleshooting in case you have e.g a disk map issue. Also includes modules and dependencies for tg3, mptsas, mpt2sas, mpt3sas, hpsa and vmxnet3 although sas is not yet supported. rd.gz.3615.microserver.gen7-8.v2.7z Edited September 16, 2021 by pocopico 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erkify 0 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, pocopico said: Try this rd (7.0.1-42214), which also is the current version of redpill (v0.5-git-f3fcc22). It also makes use of Jumkey extra modules load patch and starts inetd for telnet to the system and troubleshooting in case you have e.g a disk map issue. Also includes modules and dependencies for tg3, mptsas, mpt2sas, mpt3sas, hpsa and vmxnet3 although sas is not yet supported. rd.gz.3615.microserver.gen7-8.v2.7z 7.79 MB · 7 downloads Thanks for the work, I have used it on my baremetal G8 microserver and I have been able to update everything, but the system reboots after about 20 minutes and reboots again, any ideas? Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erkify 0 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Now it has been restarted after a few minutes only, I do not know if it is in the loading of all the containers or what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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