DSM 7.0 Release Candidate is out


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looks like Version 7.0-41882 is RC now, so might might not be that far to a 7.0 release

https://www.synology.com/en-global/releaseNote/DSM

beside the usual updated information about fixes and features

"...

DSM 7.0 for FS, SA, XS/XS+, and DVA series models are currently under development and will be available in the next quarter.

..."

so it might be that 7.0 release finally is in q3/2021

 

also EOL for 6.2 seems to be out, might be 6/2023

https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/npwo72/whats_the_plan_for_future_support_for_dsm_6/

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7 hours ago, IG-88 said:

looks like Version 7.0-41882 is RC now, so might might not be that far to a 7.0 release

https://www.synology.com/en-global/releaseNote/DSM

beside the usual updated information about fixes and features

"...

DSM 7.0 for FS, SA, XS/XS+, and DVA series models are currently under development and will be available in the next quarter.

..."

so it might be that 7.0 release finally is in q3/2021

 

also EOL for 6.2 seems to be out, might be 6/2023

https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/npwo72/whats_the_plan_for_future_support_for_dsm_6/

 

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USB devices (Wi-Fi dongle, Bluetooth dongle, 3G/4G dongle, USB DAC/speaker, and DTV dongle) are no longer supported. If your Synology NAS is currently connected via a wireless dongle, it will be disconnected after the update.

 

^^^ this one is interesting. Sucks that they are removing this.

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3 hours ago, test4321 said:

USB devices (Wi-Fi dongle, Bluetooth dongle, 3G/4G dongle, USB DAC/speaker, and DTV dongle) are no longer supported.

 

What's about USB devices connected to a docker image or a vm, e. g. a zigbee stick?

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14 hours ago, tdse13 said:

What's about USB devices connected to a docker image or a vm, e. g. a zigbee stick?

afaik you will need a driver in dsm to access a device from docker

examples might be dvb devices that need to provide /dev/dvb/... to make dvb application in docker work or plex as docker that still  needs /dev/dri/... to work

even a zigbee device will need some kind of comport for docker and guess where that com port comes from ... a driver in dsm

so there will be less support for other hardware that need special backported drivers for synology's older kernels, i guess some basic stuff that comes with the kernel like the usb com port for a zigbee might still work, but wifi and dvb are often backported and lots of new hardware did not work for a while (usb wifi support was ended about 2-3 years ago and was just continued as "as is" service, so its just some finishing up cleaning wit the new kernels for 7.0

there will still be the option to add drivers i guess (i never tried to add drivers on a real synology box, not sure how that will work when they need signed drivers)

for now 7.0 does not seem to be a thing for xpenology users as even 6.2.4 does not work (and that uses the same kernel version as 6.2.3)

 

you would need to check what drivers are used for your zigbee dongle and then check if that driver is either compiled into the 7.0 kernel (.config file that is used for compiling the kernel) or if there is a *.ko (driver module)  in the hda1 file in /usr/lib/modules/ (you can still open *.pat and the hda1.tgz with 7zip)

the .config file con be found here

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgpl/files/toolkit/DSM7.0/

inside the "dev" files

for a 920+ it would be "ds.geminilake-7.0.dev.txz" in in there

\usr\local\x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\sys-root\usr\lib\modules\DSM-7.0\build\.config

 

the type like geminilake can be seen in the "VERSION" file of the *.pat file unter "unique="

 

for now there is no need to think about 7.0 as we dont have a loader and before a release of 7.0 its (still) not likely that we will see a loader

so the RC is the first sign for a release of 7.0 and we might see 7.0 release after the summer in september and after that we will wait for 1-3 month if there is any movement in the loader section

maybe there will be some other way around that by using virtual dsm on kvm, who knows, its still open (and dsm 6.2.3 and 6.1.x are still working on some user's hardware - ok there are even still 5.x units around too)

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24 minutes ago, IG-88 said:

afaik you will need a driver in dsm to access a device from docker

 

Docker only can use devices that are already in existence in Linux.  Docker apps are really just a chroot of the host Linux environment.

 

25 minutes ago, IG-88 said:

so there will be less support for other hardware that need special backported drivers for synology's older kernels

 

This is the real reason for this. It's hard for Synology to make newer drivers work with old kernels, just like it is for @IG-88 extra.lzma

 

All is not lost if you have the time and inclination. Even DSM on real Synology can compile loadable drivers that can be added via modprobe.

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30 minutes ago, flyride said:

All is not lost if you have the time and inclination. Even DSM on real Synology can compile loadable drivers that can be added via modprobe.

a example for added drivers for normal retails dsm systems is this (5Gbit usb nic)

https://github.com/bb-qq/aqc111

as long as its working with the original dsm kernel (that we also use in xpenology) it can be done, there are things that can't be added like hyper-v as it nneds support in the kernel to be present

in theory a 918+ user could take my extra/extra2 for 918+ and use the *.ko files on a areal 918+, but the 918+ does not have a pcie slot, only usb3 so it would be just the usb nic drivers like aqc111 or r8152 (or some asix 100Mbit, 1G usb nics)

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One more question (a litte bit off topic): Is it difficult to move a baremetal installation to an ESXi based installation? And would that setup run on an Asrock J3345-ITX 16 GB RAM, 2 x 12 TB with xpenology as a vm and other vms with access to the USB ports? Thank you.

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