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looks much better suited for xpenology then then original gen10, i wonder why its not named gen11, it has everything it need to get the new gen label

for people who prefer pictures and text (you can study in the pace you like) there is a more or less 1:1 version of that video

 

https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-proliant-microserver-gen10-plus-v-gen10-hardware-overview/

 

on 1st look if equipped with a G54xx CPU it would be able to use it for hardware transcoding but i guess price point will not be in favor of that model (and with just 4 drive slots, they should have made it 6)

 

edit: looks like there is a version with G5420 and 8GB (without iLO5 card?) for ~500€ so its 150-200€ more expansive then the old Gen10

on closer look the iLO extension slot looks like a pcie 4x slot but it closer to the edge so to fit in a normal pcie 4x card one would have to remove the slot mounting from the card, hold it in place in other ways and the card would stand out a little at the back, but it looks like as 10G nic and a storage controller would be possible at the same time

also the drives can be separately seen without any raid from esxi (it mode) so it will be good for xpenology without any additional controller

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7 hours ago, serverus said:

I am about to buy HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus with Intel Pentium G5420 and also swap the RAM with ECC RAM KSM26ES8/8ME.

Can xpenology be installed on this setup? Will everything work?

its pretty new, i have not seen one yet here but from the hardware it should be ok with loader 1.04b (918+), also G5400, i5-9400 are tested with hardware transcoding so i'd assume the G5420 will work too

storage is standard intel (so its ahci) and nic is intel i350, we use recent intel drivers for the driver extension so it should work (and if not i will have a look)

 

https://xpenology.com/forum/forum/83-faq-start-here/

https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/7973-tutorial-installmigrate-dsm-52-to-61x-juns-loader/

https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/21663-driver-extension-jun-103b104b-for-dsm622-for-3615xs-3617xs-918/

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Hi,

 

Today I received the HP Proliant Gen10 + and started immediately. 🤪

First the BIOS and noted the MAC addresses.

Then finished the preparation that I started yesterday.

I only had to add the 4 MAC addresses of the NICs. to the grub.cfg

 

I made 4 versions of the Synoboot.

Based on 918+ 6.2.2 DSM with 1.04b loader

1. Original

2. Extra Drivers Syno

3. Extra Drivers Standard

4. Extra Drivers Recovery

 

I started with the first and put it on the USB.

Gen20 + started up, but the Synology Assistant couldn't find it.

Then started a webbrowser and typed the URL find.synology.com.

He found the DS918 + and asked if I wanted to install it.

Didn't even have to point to the PAT file.

Then he rebooted 2 times and he was ready.

I am still impressed with how smooth it went.

Continue testing in the coming days.

 

Question. Is it correct that he reboots 2 times after installation?

Otherwise the can be a problem with something that  makes him crash and boot again

 

P.s. I'm in love 😍

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1 minute ago, MarcoH said:

Question. Is it correct that he reboots 2 times after installation?

yes, 1st was to install the main version (6.2.2) and 2nd was for the latest update (u6)

 

there is 6.2.3 already and if you update to this you will need a new extra/extra2

https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/28321-driver-extension-jun-104b-for-dsm623-for-918/

 

 

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1 minute ago, MarcoH said:

Let me first enjoy 6.2.2.

 

nothing in terms of functionality to gain

but if you do it you can unplug your usb as 6.2.2 is still runing, put the new extra/extra2 to the usb replacing the old, plug it back and install 6.2.3 through the gui

(its also possible to mount the usb, while still plunged in, on dsm 6.2.2 running, copy the extra/extra2 to it, unmount the usb and then do the update to 6.2.3)

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22 hours ago, IG-88 said:

 

nothing in terms of functionality to gain

but if you do it you can unplug your usb as 6.2.2 is still runing, put the new extra/extra2 to the usb replacing the old, plug it back and install 6.2.3 through the gui

(its also possible to mount the usb, while still plunged in, on dsm 6.2.2 running, copy the extra/extra2 to it, unmount the usb and then do the update to 6.2.3)

So i can mount the USB while Synology is running. Thru CLI? Can i find it on the forum? You reported that Synlogy pulled back the version so i wait. I also have to wait for to SSD Brackets

Do you think hardware transcoding is possible? I miss the directory's /dev/dri. Or do i need your extra drivers?

 

Mount USB while running is like this?

 

1) Enable SSH and ssh into your DiskStation

2) Become root ( sudo -i )

3) Make a mount point ( mkdir -p /tmp/mountMe )

4) cd into /dev ( cd /dev )

5) mount synoboot2 to your mount point ( mount -t vfat synoboot2 /tmp/mountMe )

6) Profit!

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mine looks like this and make sure to unmount before installing

mkdir -p /mnt/synoboot1
mkdir -p /mnt/synoboot2

echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/syno_install_flag
mount /dev/synoboot1 /mnt/synoboot1
mount /dev/synoboot2 /mnt/synoboot2

 

13 minutes ago, MarcoH said:

Do you think hardware transcoding is possible? I miss the directory's /dev/dri. Or do i need your extra drivers?

yes when using 6.2.2 it should be 0.8 standard for 918+

the cpu should support it

 

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Changed to this one

 

0.8_std ds918+ - extra.lzma/extra2.lzma for loader 1.04b_mod ds918+ DSM 6.2.2 v0.8_std
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00354004133254441591

SHA256: F611BCA5457A74AE65ABC4596F1D0E6B36A2749B16A827087D97C1CAF3FEA89A

 

But still no /dev/driv 🤔

 

Transcoding (needs sn and mac from real syno hardware)

I found this on the forum. I have a DS214+. Can i use that serial?

 

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2 hours ago, MarcoH said:

 

Transcoding (needs sn and mac from real syno hardware)

no, not anymore

https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/24864-transcoding-without-a-valid-serial-number/

 

2 hours ago, MarcoH said:

But still no /dev/driv

can you PM me a dmesg log? (/var/log/dmesg)

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On 5/2/2020 at 9:00 PM, MarcoH said:

Wow, thanks

 

Dmesg is in youre PM

I heard someone talking about the motherboard of gen 10+ blocked the integrated graphic card from the CPU. I don’t know if that’s true but if not it would really be the best compact xpenology ever.

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Hello,

 

I am about to replace my ds916+ with the xeon version of the Gen10 plus.

 

 I have some questions for Gen10 plus owners :-) :

  • Using SHR are you able to do software raid like synology DS, or synology use only hardware raid ?
  • If not, i need to buy an aditionnal raid card ,right ?
  • Are you able to create BRTFS volume ? or there are limitations ?

 

If i want to migrate my DS916+ to the Gen10 plus, can i do a migrate when installing the xpenology OS and adding the 4 disks ?

 

What is the best deal for you ?

  • Add a raid card, install ESX and Xpenology under VM
  • Install Xpenology

 

I already have an ESXI that i backup using Active Backup on my DS916+. I am researching performance & availability. (Share, Moments, Active Backup & Plex)

 

Best regards, 

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1 hour ago, sebg35 said:

I have some questions for Gen10 plus owners

nor really, thats basic questions unrealted to microservers from hpe

 

1 hour ago, sebg35 said:
  • Using SHR are you able to do software raid like synology DS, or synology use only hardware raid ?

its in the faq (you might read this before asking?)

https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/9393-hardware-faq/?do=findComment&comment=82386

 

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  • If not, i need to buy an aditionnal raid card ,right ?

no, quite the contrary, it need to be hba/it mode so you can see very single disk

 

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  • Are you able to create BRTFS volume ? or there are limitations ?

thats even covered by synology's own faq/kb as its is a basic feature (did'nt you say you have a 916+?)

btrfs is synologys default when creating a volume

https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/Btrfs

there are some values about btrfs in the main config file (synoinfo.conf) you could check on your 916+

 

 

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il y a 55 minutes, IG-88 a dit :

its in the faq (you might read this before asking?

Thanks for your answer. Yes I read the FAQ, but sometimes for non english user, and with the lot and usefull informations posted it makes me confuses on some points. That's why I am posted in this topic. Thanks for faq référence. 

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