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Actually I got the ideia to try this from a post by alexku44, when he confirmed that older driver works in his setup, so credit for discovering this goes to him.

 

I confirm upgrade success dsm3615xs to 6.2.3 on Microserver GEN 7, GEN8 and GEN10, this is only hardware I have running DSM

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, IG-88 said:

yes i don't doubt that but it will not work for everyone (every hardware) and on 918+ there are three types of extra/extra2.lzma and depending on what type used it will it will "influence" the result (3615/17 does not have i915 hardware transcoding and does not rely on i915 firmware)

i guess it wont make things worse to try jun's original files - but don't blame me or djvas335 if it does not ;-) and i guess it will be back to what you had before when using the extra/extra2 you used before you tried jun's originals (also no guarantees - as usual)

one thing is sure, your data are still there, you just cant use them because you might have lost network access or the storage does not work to get all disks into the raid

one "safe" solution might be to boot up open media vault from a external (additional) source/disk, that will give you network access to your raid (data) volume - if you need files from there - thats my personal plan "f" if i loose access when dsm does not boot (if your raid is damaged then you are beyond "f")

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, IG-88 said:

one "safe" solution might be to boot up open media vault from a external (additional) source/disk, that will give you network access to your raid (data) volume - if you need files from there - thats my personal plan "f" if i loose access when dsm does not boot (if your raid is damaged then you are beyond "f")

 

 

 

Interesting. Should it work when SHR used?

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1 minute ago, Eduardo said:

Interesting. Should it work when SHR used?

i'm not using SHR aka lvm2 (in addition to mdadm) but afaik it shoud work too (SHR is "just" a clever combination of mdadm and lvm2)

on purpose I'm using plain mdadm raid6 for my own system - makes recovery easier (if needed, and tbh i did need that once even with 2 redundancy disk - and as it should be i do have a backup too, because raid is not a replacement for backup!!!)

mdadm and lvm2 are no rocket science and no exclusives to synology so its possible to recover and use SHR volumes with usual linux

look for @flyride posts for help to recover problems with storage (i like to work in that field too in my spare time - but he is much more capable in that field - if you want to learn  about that read his threads)

 

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- Outcome of the update: FAILED

- DSM version prior update: DSM 6.1.7 UPDATE 2

- CURRENT Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.02b - DS3617xs..... Trying upgrade using 1.03b with new dsm kernel file

- Using custom extra.lzma: YES

- Installation type: BAREMETAL - Asrock H370m - NIC: 1 x Giga PHY Intel® I219V, 1 x GigaLAN Intel® I211AT

- Additional comments: HANGS SHORTLY AFTER BOOTING. NO NETWORK ON ANY NIC, NO KEYBOARD LIGHTS

 

 

Hi All,

 

So i currently have a intel i3-8100 processor, Asrock H370m motherboard based DS3617xs xpenology system running Junls 1.02b loader with DSM 6.1.7-15284 Update 2 and the extra ramdisk(some version from 2018)

Trying to get it to upgrade to 6.2.2 using the 1.0.3b loader and the extra kernel for 6.2.x. However looks like that even without the disks connected, the system is kernel panicing shortly after the 1.03b loader boot. While i havent checked via serial console, if its indeed a kernel panic. But looks like that is the case, as shortly after the boot the keyboard lights go off. I get no network connection etc....

NOTE: i have already upgraded my second xpenology box that has an older/different hardware successfully to 6.2.2 using the steps on page 1 of this thread, So im famialir with the requirements.

 

This is the Asrock board and its specs.. No extra add on adapters/controllers etc... Any ideas? Is it known to be not compatible. 

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/H370M-ITXac/index.asp#Specification

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Eduardo said:

Interesting. Should it work when SHR used?

afair yes but its not going to make things worse, you would disconnect all (dsm) disks install ovm onto one separate disk and after its installed you shut down, reconnect all disk (boot from the ovm disk) and you will see if it discovers your (shr) volume (it will not discover the dsm system raid1 partitions - at least it did not as i tested it 2-3 years ago - i'm much more resilient to dsm problems now and i'm not using the "latest" dsm on my "live" system - its still running dsm 6.1 and i'm not "exposing" it to the internet)

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Use 1.03b loader and upgrade directly to DSM 6.2.3, do not use extra.lzma, it's no longer compatible with newer DSM, they reverted their driver support to old version of drivers, so old drivers from original loader work.

 

14 hours ago, alirz1 said:

- Outcome of the update: FAILED

- DSM version prior update: DSM 6.1.7 UPDATE 2

- CURRENT Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.02b - DS3617xs..... Trying upgrade using 1.03b with new dsm kernel file

- Using custom extra.lzma: YES

- Installation type: BAREMETAL - Asrock H370m - NIC: 1 x Giga PHY Intel® I219V, 1 x GigaLAN Intel® I211AT

- Additional comments: HANGS SHORTLY AFTER BOOTING. NO NETWORK ON ANY NIC, NO KEYBOARD LIGHTS

 

 

Hi All,

 

So i currently have a intel i3-8100 processor, Asrock H370m motherboard based DS3617xs xpenology system running Junls 1.02b loader with DSM 6.1.7-15284 Update 2 and the extra ramdisk(some version from 2018)

Trying to get it to upgrade to 6.2.2 using the 1.0.3b loader and the extra kernel for 6.2.x. However looks like that even without the disks connected, the system is kernel panicing shortly after the 1.03b loader boot. While i havent checked via serial console, if its indeed a kernel panic. But looks like that is the case, as shortly after the boot the keyboard lights go off. I get no network connection etc....

NOTE: i have already upgraded my second xpenology box that has an older/different hardware successfully to 6.2.2 using the steps on page 1 of this thread, So im famialir with the requirements.

 

This is the Asrock board and its specs.. No extra add on adapters/controllers etc... Any ideas? Is it known to be not compatible. 

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/H370M-ITXac/index.asp#Specification

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, IG-88 said:

just be patient until romorrow, i'm working on it

i could send you a link for a test i did that will work for systems using realtek nic and ahci for storage (like most mITX boards with apollo or gemini lake)

 

i guess that can be misleading, for hp microserver you will need broadcom driver (onboard) and "no extra.lzma" can mean you used jun's default extra.lzma (part of the loader) or you deleted the extra.lzma completely from the loader

the driver inside jun's default extra.lzma might work with 6.2.3 in some (lot's) cases but its not that universal to copy back jun's extra.lzma, depending on the hardware it might end in success but can also fail

there will be cases where storage is not working or where network does not work (i've seen problems here with a igb.ko based network adapter, e1000e and realtek did work)

 

 

Thanks, but incredibly it has been solved using the original Jun's loader, without changing the extra.lzma

 

Now with Asrock J4105 and DSM 6.2.3 Works Ok with original Jun's loader

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2 hours ago, djvas335 said:

Use 1.03b loader and upgrade directly to DSM 6.2.3, do not use extra.lzma, it's no longer compatible with newer DSM, they reverted their driver support to old version of drivers, so old drivers from original loader work.

 

 

I dont know whats going on. But i burnt stock 1.03b loader on a new USB. Updated the grub config. yet, it looks like the box still kernel panics within seconds after booting from the loader.

no network, no keyboard lights etc....again, everything works fine with 1.02 loader.

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You probably are using modified loader 1.03 with updated extra.lzma, check the extra.lzma on partition 2 of flash drive, it needs to be about 2mb in size, if its 4.5mb you are using modified loader

 

1 hour ago, alirz1 said:

I dont know whats going on. But i burnt stock 1.03b loader on a new USB. Updated the grub config. yet, it looks like the box still kernel panics within seconds after booting from the loader.

no network, no keyboard lights etc....again, everything works fine with 1.02 loader.

 

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15 minutes ago, djvas335 said:

You probably are using modified loader 1.03 with updated extra.lzma, check the extra.lzma on partition 2 of flash drive, it needs to be about 2mb in size, if its 4.5mb you are using modified loader

 

 

No, I burnt stock 1.03b downloaded from MEGA, Juns download link. As a test, I burnt stock 1.02b and box boots fine with one.

EDIT. extra.lzma is 1.8MB. 

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Question about LAN drivers. The drivers list/excel sheet on the first page shows both Intel 1219V and 1211 supported for DS3615. Shouldnt both work for DS3617 also? I only have one Nic work for my 3617. Ive seen other posts from other people that have the same board as me(Asrock h370m) complaining about only 1 nic working.

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Hi everyone, I just got this  Dell PowerEdge R420 and I've been trying to install using jun 1.04b for DSM6.2.2 DS918+ since Saturday morning with no success on getting it in the network. Unfortunately, I'm not able to find NIC that would work with jun 1.04b for DSM6.2.2 DS918+ on this device.

 

-Type:    BAREMETAL

-CPU:     Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10 M Cache, 6.4GT/s QPI, No Turbo , 4C, 80W

-RAID Controller: PERC H710 Integrated

-RAM: 2 X 8GB  1600 MHZ DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 ECC REGISTERED

-Nic: On-Board Dual Port: Broadcom 1 Gigabit Ethernet BCM5720. (I have ordered another Dell Broadcom 57810S Dual Port DA/SFP+ 10Gb that should be delivered today or tomorrow)

 

I've tried several other Nics but the same results, no network connectivity, Intels, and Broadcoms. One dual 1 GB intel I know for sure that worked with DS918+ when I tested it on another server but this one does not. The jun 1.03b / DS3617 detects this Nic BCM5720  and works fine.

 

I appreciate any help or guidance on this project.

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13 hours ago, alirz1 said:

While not a direct answer to your question. But why not stick with 3617? It has better package DSM packages support from what i know.I've been using it for years.

You maybe right about the DS3617, until now I had no luck with DS918, I’m probably missing something since I'm very to this. But thank you Alirz1 for the suggestion. 

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so F me. I did all pre testing in Vm environments and also on my live production baremetal xpenology, with a separate USb and a separate disk drive to make sure my upgrade from jun 1.02b DSM 6.1.7 for my DS3617 would go smooth to 6.2.3 using 1.03b loader. Everything looked normal for days. So i decided to pull the trigger.

 

I upgrade, box boots up fine, goes into dsm 6.2.3, using 1.0.3 stock loader. However i have strange glitches in my gui, my installed packages are not starting.

My data shares are not mounting. I can see that in the storage manager the file shares are there, my HDD and volumes are all good!!

Its like none of the services are starting!!!! Every page and control panel item i visit and try to change a config. I get error "operation failed. please login to dsm and try again".I thought maybe its related to 2-step verificaiotn somehow, but doesnt look like it.

I assume its not easy to downgrade back to 6.1.7 and keep all settings/data now? any ideas if i can fix the system in its current state.

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On 4/20/2020 at 6:46 PM, smartire said:

-CPU:     Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10 M Cache, 6.4GT/s QPI, No Turbo , 4C, 80W

sand bridge, so old for 918+, it need 4th gen intel (haswell) as minimum

do 3615/17 is your way

 

On 4/20/2020 at 6:46 PM, smartire said:

Nic: On-Board Dual Port: Broadcom 1 Gigabit Ethernet BCM5720. (I have ordered another Dell Broadcom 57810S Dual Port DA/SFP+ 10Gb that should be delivered today or tomorrow)

both are supported with juns default drivers in 1.03b

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On 4/16/2020 at 2:34 AM, IG-88 said:

sure?

SAS3408 is dev id 00af

https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1000

 

and that supported with the driver in the 0.5 extra.lzma for dsm 6.2.2 3617, mpt3sas.ko (not with 3615 or 918+)

only sas38xx/39xx is not supported (at least when it comes to the device list from the driver

 

  vendor 1000 devices in 3617 dms 6.2.2 (Reveal hidden contents)

pci:v00001000d00000064
pci:v00001000d00000065
pci:v00001000d0000006E
pci:v00001000d00000072
pci:v00001000d00000074
pci:v00001000d00000076
pci:v00001000d00000077
pci:v00001000d0000007E
pci:v00001000d00000080
pci:v00001000d00000081
pci:v00001000d00000082
pci:v00001000d00000083
pci:v00001000d00000084
pci:v00001000d00000085
pci:v00001000d00000086
pci:v00001000d00000087
pci:v00001000d00000090
pci:v00001000d00000091
pci:v00001000d00000094
pci:v00001000d00000095
pci:v00001000d00000096
pci:v00001000d00000097
pci:v00001000d000000AA
pci:v00001000d000000AB
pci:v00001000d000000AC
pci:v00001000d000000AD
pci:v00001000d000000AE
pci:v00001000d000000AF
pci:v00001000d000000C0
pci:v00001000d000000C1
pci:v00001000d000000C2
pci:v00001000d000000C3
pci:v00001000d000000C4
pci:v00001000d000000C5
pci:v00001000d000000C6
pci:v00001000d000000C7
pci:v00001000d000000C8
pci:v00001000d000000C9
pci:v00001000d000000D0
pci:v00001000d000000D1
pci:v00001000d000000D2
pci:v00001000d000002B0

 

I try the 0.5 extra with ds3617 loader,  system could find the HDD through LSI 9400 HBA card,  but other problem is only find 6 of 8 HDD.
 

robert@vDSM6:/$ lspci -nn
0000:00:00.0 Class [0600]: Device [8086:7190] (rev 01)
0000:00:01.0 Class [0604]: Device [8086:7191] (rev 01)
0000:00:07.0 Class [0601]: Device [8086:7110] (rev 08)
0000:00:07.1 Class [0101]: Device [8086:7111] (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Class [0680]: Device [8086:7113] (rev 08)
0000:00:07.7 Class [0880]: Device [15ad:0740] (rev 10)
0000:00:0f.0 Class [0300]: Device [15ad:0405]
0000:00:11.0 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:0790] (rev 02)
0000:00:15.0 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.1 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.2 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.3 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.4 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.5 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.6 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:15.7 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.0 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.1 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.2 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.3 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.4 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.5 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.6 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:16.7 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.0 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.1 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.2 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.3 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.4 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.5 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.6 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:17.7 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.0 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.1 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.2 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.3 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.4 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.5 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.6 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:00:18.7 Class [0604]: Device [15ad:07a0] (rev 01)
0000:02:01.0 Class [0106]: Device [15ad:07e0]
0000:02:02.0 Class [0c03]: Device [15ad:0774]
0000:02:03.0 Class [0c03]: Device [15ad:0770]
0000:03:00.0 Class [0107]: Device [1000:00af] (rev 01)
0000:0b:00.0 Class [0200]: Device [8086:10d3]
0000:13:00.0 Class [0200]: Device [8086:10ed] (rev 01)
0001:00:02.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:6f04] (rev ff)
0001:00:02.2 Class [0000]: Device [8086:6f06] (rev ff)
0001:00:03.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:6f08] (rev ff)
0001:00:03.2 Class [0000]: Device [8086:6f0a] (rev ff)
0001:00:1f.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:8c54] (rev ff)
0001:00:1f.3 Class [0000]: Device [8086:8c22] (rev ff)
0001:06:00.0 Class [0000]: Device [1b4b:1475] (rev ff)
0001:08:00.0 Class [0000]: Device [1b4b:9235] (rev ff)
0001:09:00.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:1533] (rev ff)
0001:0c:00.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:1533] (rev ff)
0001:0d:00.0 Class [0000]: Device [8086:1533] (rev ff)

 

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 The parameter of bootloader DiskIdxMap=0901 SataPortMap=4 SasIdxMap=0xFF

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On 4/18/2020 at 6:03 PM, IG-88 said:

i'm asolute sure about what you did

you emptied your updated drivers and firmware on the already installed system (6.2.2->6.2.3 updated)

you removed the drivers from the extra.lzma? repacked it and put it on you loader?

and added the new firmware files to your (already installed) system and it works for you

that would be in the direction what i had in mind but with a more universal touch as it would be interesting to not have to manually clean the driver and firmware (0 byte long files overwriting the files there will do the trick) - but we might not need all this

 

in doing your experiments and questions you also did something else and that was what my question about the driver version was about - you used a 0.5 extra.lzma of mine, that version that worked before 6.2.2 (the kernel config change about "CONFIG_PCIEASPM") and would not have worked with 6.2.2 but it worked with 6.2.3

that implies there is no big change in kernel source 25423 that prevents us from making new drivers, it might be just that synology reverted the change of the kernel config made in 6.2.2 (maybe because they found a better solution like a newer driver)

 

as a quick check i took the original 1.04b loader (jun's extra.lzma made for 6.2.0) added the new kernel (not needed) and it booted up (using the new kernel) and installed dsm 6.2.3

the only mismatch now are jun's newer backported i915 drivers, but with synololgys new own backported driver we dont need it anymore

it now seems simple to build a new extra/extra2 for 6.2.3 that will have all drivers working as before, i will just remove i915 drivers, add the new firmware (there is one file different from what jun's i915 driver used) adn recompile drivers the old (pre 6.2.2) way - if there are no new obstacles that can be done by tomorrow

 

 

 

Hi IG-88,

 

I'm planning to build a new Xpenology system soon which has an onboard Realtek NIC.

If I understand you correctly, you are planning to compile new extra.lzma/extra2 for 6.2.3, as the current v0.5 is only compatible with 6.2.2?

 

Just to make sure, before I put on 6.2.2 with v0.5 driver extension.. 😉

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14 hours ago, IG-88 said:

sand bridge, so old for 918+, it need 4th gen intel (haswell) as minimum

do 3615/17 is your way

 

both are supported with juns default drivers in 1.03b

Perfect! DS3617 it's, one more question should I use RAID or HBA/Passthrough?
Thank you very much for the information and support. IG-88 You Rock!!!!!!

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