Schnapps Posted November 5, 2014 Share #151 Posted November 5, 2014 Jumbos are needed from what I know only on 10G networks and must be activated on both the client and the server Switch must support them too. Uh, yeah. That too! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 5, 2014 Share #152 Posted November 5, 2014 i have between 90 and 110 mb/s per second from windows 8.1 over gigabit lan, from disk to disk. I tried again, Win8.1 says 35/40MB/s and it's not stable at all!! I don't know which is the problem. Here is my config Q1900-ITX + 4GB Ram WD RED 3TB (1 disk at the moment without raid) Nanoboot-5.0.3.2 DSM 5.0-4528 X64 Update 1 Any suggestions? Have someone else the same config? I'm thinking to re-install everything again. I have a constant 120MB/s transfer on big files@HyperV Which Server you have? Hyper-V Server or 2012 Server with Hyper-V? I tried on a virtual machine the Hyper-V Server (the free one) but it's very hard to configure! Can you give me some tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnapps Posted November 5, 2014 Share #153 Posted November 5, 2014 i have between 90 and 110 mb/s per second from windows 8.1 over gigabit lan, from disk to disk. I tried again, Win8.1 says 35/40MB/s and it's not stable at all!! I don't know which is the problem. Here is my config Q1900-ITX + 4GB Ram WD RED 3TB (1 disk at the moment without raid) Nanoboot-5.0.3.2 DSM 5.0-4528 X64 Update 1 Any suggestions? Have someone else the same config? I'm thinking to re-install everything again. I have a constant 120MB/s transfer on big files@HyperV Which Server you have? Hyper-V Server or 2012 Server with Hyper-V? I tried on a virtual machine the Hyper-V Server (the free one) but it's very hard to configure! Can you give me some tips? Well, then that's the max speed that drive can have and the speed degrades so much at a certain moment in time because the buffer is getting filled up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnapps Posted November 5, 2014 Share #154 Posted November 5, 2014 i have between 90 and 110 mb/s per second from windows 8.1 over gigabit lan, from disk to disk. I tried again, Win8.1 says 35/40MB/s and it's not stable at all!! I don't know which is the problem. Here is my config Q1900-ITX + 4GB Ram WD RED 3TB (1 disk at the moment without raid) Nanoboot-5.0.3.2 DSM 5.0-4528 X64 Update 1 Any suggestions? Have someone else the same config? I'm thinking to re-install everything again. I have a constant 120MB/s transfer on big files@HyperV Which Server you have? Hyper-V Server or 2012 Server with Hyper-V? I tried on a virtual machine the Hyper-V Server (the free one) but it's very hard to configure! Can you give me some tips? Well, then that's the max speed that drive can have and the speed degrades so much at a certain moment in time because the buffer is getting filled up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 5, 2014 Share #155 Posted November 5, 2014 Do you think it's caused by my slow hard disk on the notebook? Could I have some benefit using hyper-v server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnapps Posted November 5, 2014 Share #156 Posted November 5, 2014 Yup. Definitely from that singular HDD. I'd add more drives in order to enhance the speed. A hypervisor wouldn't help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 5, 2014 Share #157 Posted November 5, 2014 I will try to configure the hyper-v server as soon as I will find a place where to move all my 3TB disk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 7, 2014 Share #158 Posted November 7, 2014 Have you tried other ethernet cables? What kind of cables are you using? Cat5/Cat5e/Cat6? Are your devices connected to a 1Gbit switch or a router with 1Gbit switch? Are they connected to the same switch? Have you tried copying to another pc? Are your devices grounded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 7, 2014 Share #159 Posted November 7, 2014 Yes i changed the cables and both are cat.5e. I also tried on a newer laptop and it was about 20MB/a more, so I reached about 65MB/s. Both of them were connected to a gigabit router. I'm not so expert but I think it could even depend from the xpe driver, that's why I would try with hyper-v, maybe the network adapter is better supported on win server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 7, 2014 Share #160 Posted November 7, 2014 I don't know which HDD is in your laptop, but that disk could also be your bottleneck and not your NAS. Is the disk in the laptop fragmented? If it is, then that for sure could degrade the performance of your disk. Have you tried copying between the 2 laptops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 7, 2014 Share #161 Posted November 7, 2014 I'm are too the laptop's disk is a bottleneck I will try to copy between the two laptops and I will update the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnapps Posted November 7, 2014 Share #162 Posted November 7, 2014 Yes i changed the cables and both are cat.5e. I also tried on a newer laptop and it was about 20MB/a more, so I reached about 65MB/s. Both of them were connected to a gigabit router. I'm not so expert but I think it could even depend from the xpe driver, that's why I would try with hyper-v, maybe the network adapter is better supported on win server. DUDE, 65MB/s for a SATA disk is THE limit. You won't get faster unless you have a RAID matrix. Cheer up and don't change your config due to performance. It's working fine just with 1 drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 7, 2014 Share #163 Posted November 7, 2014 Ok thanks a lot I will keep my actual config! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 8, 2014 Share #164 Posted November 8, 2014 65MB/s for a SATA disk is THE limit. You won't get faster unless you have a RAID matrix. Sorry, but that is simply not true. My N54L came with a 250GB SATA drive on which I have installed Xpenology. With that ONE disk I am able to read/write with FULL 1Gbit speed = +100MByte/s. A normal 3½" 7200rpm SATA drive is able to deliver approx 120-130MByte/s on the outer tracks, and approx 80-90MByte/s from the inner tracks. I have no experience with 2½" drives, so I don't know the transferspeed they may be able to deliver. This command times how long it takes to write 1GB to volume1: time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 And this how long it takes to read 1GB from volume1: time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null These commands have to be run from a shell on the NAS and measures how fast your NAS is internally. Then you know if you have a bottleneck on the disks in your NAS, or it is your network/laptop, that is holding you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 8, 2014 Share #165 Posted November 8, 2014 65MB/s for a SATA disk is THE limit. You won't get faster unless you have a RAID matrix. Sorry, but that is simply not true. My N54L came with a 250GB SATA drive on which I have installed Xpenology. With that ONE disk I am able to read/write with FULL 1Gbit speed = +100MByte/s. A normal 3 1/2" 7200rpm SATA drive is able to deliver approx 120-130MByte/s on the outer tracks, and approx 80-90MByte/s from the inner tracks. I have no experience with 2 1/2" drives, so I don't know the transferspeed they may be able to deliver. This command times how long it takes to write 1GB to volume1: time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 And this how long it takes to read 1GB from volume1: time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null These commands have to be run from a shell on the NAS and measures how fast your NAS is internally. Then you know if you have a bottleneck on the disks in your NAS, or it is your network/laptop, that is holding you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 8, 2014 Share #166 Posted November 8, 2014 Trans for your answer @Zarocq , I tried with your tips, here are my results but I didn't understand a lot! DiskStation> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out real 0m 3.78s user 0m 0.00s sys 0m 1.45s DiskStation> time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m 1.71s user 0m 0.52s sys 0m 1.18s DiskStation> I think it's depend from my laptop hard disk which is a sata I, from another laptop with sata 2 reach ~65MB/s but very floating and slow down even to 20-30MB/s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolucja Posted November 8, 2014 Share #167 Posted November 8, 2014 Trans for your answer @Zarocq , I tried with your tips, here are my results but I didn't understand a lot! DiskStation> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out real 0m 3.78s user 0m 0.00s sys 0m 1.45s DiskStation> time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m 1.71s user 0m 0.52s sys 0m 1.18s DiskStation> I think it's depend from my laptop hard disk which is a sata I, from another laptop with sata 2 reach ~65MB/s but very floating and slow down even to 20-30MB/s! It looks like your transfer rates are 270MBps for write (1024 / 3,78) and 602MBps for read (1024 / 1,71), and they are not possible with standard SATA2 and HDD.. My result are much lower (93/75Mbps): Serwerek> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/DiskStation/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out real 0m 10.96s user 0m 0.01s sys 0m 1.45s Serwerek> time dd if=/volume1/DiskStation/bigfile of=/dev/null 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m 12.62s user 0m 0.52s sys 0m 1.46s can they be caused by the RAID 1 configuration? The disks are capable of transfer speed ~115MBps without any problem and I'm really confused about that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 8, 2014 Share #168 Posted November 8, 2014 No this is on my NAS which has a single sata 3 disk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 8, 2014 Share #169 Posted November 8, 2014 How much RAM do you have in your NAS? This test only writes 1GByte, so if you have say 2GByte RAM, then the NAS is caching all your writes. You have to write/read more than the amount of RAM in your NAS, preferably more than the double of your RAM. 1GByte RAM = 2GByte file. Just double up the count-number to 32768 for a 2GByte file. A Sata drive is able to deliver ~120-130MByte/s sequential. If your NAS is fragmented, then your transfer speed will slow down. These are the number from my NAS built on a N54L with 5 4TB WD Red disks and 2GByte RAM (see my sig). NAS1> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=65536 65536+0 records in 65536+0 records out real 0m 12.36s user 0m 0.02s sys 0m 6.16s NAS1> time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null 8388608+0 records in 8388608+0 records out real 0m 10.19s user 0m 0.80s sys 0m 4.63s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 8, 2014 Share #170 Posted November 8, 2014 Ok I tested my nas again as per your suggestions, count=65536 should be fine for 4GB RAM! BusyBox v1.16.1 (2014-10-10 08:38:16 CST) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. DiskStation> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=65536 65536+0 records in 65536+0 records out real 0m 33.40s user 0m 0.03s sys 0m 5.74s DiskStation> time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null 8388608+0 records in 8388608+0 records out real 0m 33.27s user 0m 2.08s sys 0m 5.94s It looks very bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yabba235 Posted November 9, 2014 Share #171 Posted November 9, 2014 My results for ReadyNAS Pro 2 and SHR ( RAID1): bash-3.2# time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=16384 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out real 0m9.448s user 0m0.026s sys 0m3.386s bash-3.2# time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out real 0m8.907s user 0m0.930s sys 0m3.792s not bad: 108/115 MB/s W/R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 9, 2014 Share #172 Posted November 9, 2014 Ok I tested my nas again as per your suggestions, count=65536 should be fine for 4GB RAM! DiskStation> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/volume1/bigfile bs=64k count=65536 real 0m 33.40s DiskStation> time dd if=/volume1/bigfile of=/dev/null real 0m 33.27s It looks very bad No, actually it looks correct with 1 disk in the system. 4096MB in 33.4 seconds = 122 MB/s = what 1 SATA disk is able to deliver. In my eyes it looks fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixartao Posted November 9, 2014 Share #173 Posted November 9, 2014 Oh ok! So yours is so fast because you have 5 disks!? I have to plan a new buy than!! Hihihi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsManden Posted November 9, 2014 Share #174 Posted November 9, 2014 Oh ok! So yours is so fast because you have 5 disks!? I have to plan a new buy than!! Hihihi Yes. My volume1 is build with all 5 disks, which is why I get higher transfer speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosus458 Posted November 10, 2014 Share #175 Posted November 10, 2014 Hello, my name is yosus and I'm new on this forum, I want to thank everyone for the support and I hope someone can help me. I'm trying to build a NAS using this motherboard and xpenology. I've create the usb drive and boot from it using nanoboot, then select "Synology DSM 5.0 (upgrade/Degrade)" and then "Synology DSM 5.0-4493" (or other version). My problem is nic seems not to be recognized since I have the message "eth0 not RUNNING". What do i have to do to make ethernet being recognized? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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