phinemaria Posted July 26, 2019 Share #1 Posted July 26, 2019 I have a BareMetal HP GEN8 with 4x3TB HDD and in the current version DSM 6.2.1 23739. I changed the network card to an INtel chip with NC365T with four 1Gbit/s. I have done this with NC365T. The internal LAN SS are deactivated. As loader I have version 1.03b. When I update to version 24922, which I tried with a blank HDD, the DSM does not start anymore, the server is in a not definable state. Does anyone have hints how I can get from version 23739 to version 24922? I don't succeed. I would like to test this before I take my Live HHDs, so that I don't destroy my Live system. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted July 26, 2019 Share #2 Posted July 26, 2019 Did you use new (fresh) flash and hdd drive for test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I used a new HDD with an no fresh USB. I install the version 6.2.1 23739 an have made an update in DSM to 24922. After the update, the system was never come back. Edited July 26, 2019 by phinemaria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegin Posted July 27, 2019 Share #4 Posted July 27, 2019 Rewrite flash drive, delete all partitions on hdd and try to automaticaly install the latest DSM version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglf83 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #5 Posted July 27, 2019 Are you using the ds3615xs or ds3617xs loader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted July 27, 2019 I use ds3617xs and the loader 1.03b. I don´t no a dfference between 3615xs and 3617xs loader: I think it´s the same or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Olegin said: Rewrite flash drive, delete all partitions on hdd and try to automaticaly install the latest DSM version. hey I use a new hdd without any partions and use the automatically install to 24922, no funcation after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglf83 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #8 Posted July 27, 2019 I am not sure if there is a difference between the 3615 and 3617 but I had to ask. I have an Intel Gigabit PRO 1000 CT that can load 1.04b on the current update, but it does not show the network adapter in the network list. I also have not been able to update all the way with the DS3617XS loader. I am considering getting the HP card, but I am not sure that is my issue. I am continuing research and it looks like with 1.04b, the issue I was having may be fixed by doing this: ------------------------------------- @XbladeX From earlier experience with a problem like that: try these steps: Activate the SSH service in DSM (if not active) Connect to your NAS with an SSH client (e.g. putty) (or from Win 10, open a cmd window, run : ssh admin@my.nas.ip (replace with the actual IP) Enter your credentials (user: admin) Change folder to root (cd /) Delete the xpenoboot folder (sudo rm -r .xpenoboot) If the SSH service keeps stopping, you have to be quick. -------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted July 27, 2019 I need a quad gigabit network card. What kind of card will be supported. Which loader can I use with hp gen 8 and 3617xs with version 24922? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted July 27, 2019 Share #10 Posted July 27, 2019 FYI: There are "some" issues in regards to the 3617 systems with DSM 6.x, stay to 3615 (or 918+ if you have the hw for it). You don't have to take my word for it, just search the forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) okay, i'll test it with 3615xs. can i use the 1.04 loader for that? I have red I need 1.03b, right? Edited July 28, 2019 by phinemaria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted August 3, 2019 Hello, I have tested two version. I use the versin 3617xs to test all szenarios. Buy a new Quad port certified Intel network adaper and install this to pci-e slot, modefy the grub.cfg with new macs install on a blank HDD with a new flashed USB stick version 23739. All things looks fine. After this I install the update over the new installed Version with 24922. The DSM on HP Gen8 will not start, no IP adress, no way to connect second, I flashed a new stick, install a new, blank HDD and install 24922, after restart no connect to DSM. Then I flashed the USB Stick again and after reboot DSM asked me to reinstall. After ENTER, the DSM comes not back. No way to connect to the system Any idea what I can do to use 24922 on my bare metall HP GEN 8? Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted August 3, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, phinemaria said: I use the versin 3617xs to test all szenarios. I might be repeating myself, but here it goes: There are "some" issues in regards to the 3617 systems with DSM 6.x, stay to 3615!! btw: what Device ID is your HP NC365T presenting to your DSM? Seems like many of the forum users have been using the NC364T with good results, in various DSM versions, this is still supported with the native e1000e driver, but the NC365T should be based on the intel 82580 chipset, supported by the native igb driver (at least it used to be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted August 3, 2019 Hello, thanks for you answer. I bought a Gigabit ET2 Quad Port Server AdapterE1G44ET2. This card is certified for DSM. https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility?search_by=category&category=network_interface_cards&filter_ports=4 x 1GbE&p=1 So I think, it`s can not be a problem of the chipset. I think so. I will test a version of 3615 with the same hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglf83 Posted August 3, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 3, 2019 I was successfully with DS3615xs 1.03b loader. I did have to delete the old xpenoboot folder as detailed below to resolve my network issues after I migrated from the 3617 to the 3615. On 7/27/2019 at 8:46 AM, bglf83 said: I am not sure if there is a difference between the 3615 and 3617 but I had to ask. I have an Intel Gigabit PRO 1000 CT that can load 1.04b on the current update, but it does not show the network adapter in the network list. I also have not been able to update all the way with the DS3617XS loader. I am considering getting the HP card, but I am not sure that is my issue. I am continuing research and it looks like with 1.04b, the issue I was having may be fixed by doing this: ------------------------------------- @XbladeX From earlier experience with a problem like that: try these steps: Activate the SSH service in DSM (if not active) Connect to your NAS with an SSH client (e.g. putty) (or from Win 10, open a cmd window, run : ssh admin@my.nas.ip (replace with the actual IP) Enter your credentials (user: admin) Change folder to root (cd /) Delete the xpenoboot folder (sudo rm -r .xpenoboot) If the SSH service keeps stopping, you have to be quick. -------------------------------------- I have an e1000e drive loaded for my NIC. I disabled all my other NICs. To check what driver your NIC is using, log into SSH and run these commands. (I got this info from another person on the forum) ---------------------------------------------- Open a SSH connection to your NAS, and type: lspci | grep 0200 (this will list your nic's) you should see something like: ... Device 8086:xxxx (indicating Intel) This should be eth0, so type: ethtool -i eth0 you should see something like: driver: e1000e (this is a driver supported in 6.2.1) If not, try using the above :xxxx device id to check if it is supported by the bootloader/DSM version you will try to us ------------------------------------------------ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted August 4, 2019 Hello, tested with 3615xs and yes it`s fine and run. Thanks a lot. It is possible to downgrade from 3715xs to 3615xs or only with completly new installation? I use a XEON CPU and 3615xs shows i3 CPU. Can I use also the higher performance of XEON with 3615xs? nice evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted August 4, 2019 Share #17 Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Cool 3615 is a "winner", as can be seen in this post the HP NC365T is working with 3615 and DSM 6.2.2. Did you keep the NC365T, or did you replace it with the ET2 card? You should be able to "cross-upgrade" from 3617 to 3615, by booting a 3615 USB you will get the option to "migrate your HDD's" from 3617 to 3615 as DSM thinks you have moved your HDD's from one NAS to another. You will get an option to keep "just data" or "data and settings", the last one will try to keep your compatible app's as well. But you should make a backup of your settings, just in case. What your control panel show you as CPU info , is "hardcoded" in the loader, and nothing to worry about. Edited August 4, 2019 by bearcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted August 5, 2019 Share #18 Posted August 5, 2019 On 7/28/2019 at 5:58 AM, bearcat said: FYI: There are "some" issues in regards to the 3617 systems with DSM 6.x, The issue in question is the notorious "Sorry, that page doesn't exist" This is due to an invalid ELF header in shared library. For reference: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) finally done and migrated from 3715xs to 3615xs. The complete system is running with DSM 6.2 24922 U2 with 1.03b loader for 3615xs now on HP Gen8. Thanks for all support. Nice rest of the week Edited August 6, 2019 by phinemaria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannotmer Posted October 16, 2019 Share #20 Posted October 16, 2019 Le 03/08/2019 à 23:35, bglf83 a dit : I was successfully with DS3615xs 1.03b loader. I did have to delete the old xpenoboot folder as detailed below to resolve my network issues after I migrated from the 3617 to the 3615. I have an e1000e drive loaded for my NIC. I disabled all my other NICs. To check what driver your NIC is using, log into SSH and run these commands. (I got this info from another person on the forum) ---------------------------------------------- Open a SSH connection to your NAS, and type: lspci | grep 0200 (this will list your nic's) you should see something like: ... Device 8086:xxxx (indicating Intel) This should be eth0, so type: ethtool -i eth0 you should see something like: driver: e1000e (this is a driver supported in 6.2.1) If not, try using the above :xxxx device id to check if it is supported by the bootloader/DSM version you will try to us ------------------------------------------------ Hello i'm also on xpenology on a HP gen 8 DSM 6.1.7-15284 Update 2 DS3615xs CPU info vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G2020T @ 2.50GHz as i understand i can't upgrade until i bought a new network card or my CPU ? ethtool result driver: tg3 version: 3.132 firmware-version: 5720-v1.36 NCSI v1.3.7.0 There is another card i can bought ? because "Gigabit ET2 Quad Port Server AdapterE1G44ET2" is quite expensive and I only need one Gigabit ethernet port or 2 max Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted October 17, 2019 Share #21 Posted October 17, 2019 @jeannotmer You may use a 2-port card, HP NC360T is a verified working card, and not expensive. Just make sure you get the low-profile bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinemaria Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted October 17, 2019 correct, but I need 4 LAN ports and therefore the recommended card is not relevant. But thanks for the hint. My system works totally reliable so far. I have no problems and am very satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat Posted October 17, 2019 Share #23 Posted October 17, 2019 @phinemaria I know but I was replying to jeannotmer who "hijacked" your thread, my mistake. Great to hear your system is running stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannotmer Posted October 18, 2019 Share #24 Posted October 18, 2019 thanks and sorry for hijack HP NC360T is buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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