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Why does Jun's Modloader need Haswell, software limitation?


Prinz_Protato

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Basically, the title. I am just curious as to why my Westmere based box (2x X5670, 96GB Ram) can't run 6.2.1, but will run 6.2 happily? It just seems to make no sense, is this a Synology limitation?

 

My NIC is a Intel 82676 Dual port adapter - built on to the motherboard. 

 

Officially it seems it can run on pretty old hardware:

 

For the following models, DSM 6.2 will be the last upgradable version. DSM 6.2 will continue to receive critical and security updates for a minimum of 2 years after the official release.

XS Series : RS3412xs, RS3412RPxs, RS3411xs, RS3411RPxs, DS3612xs, DS3611xs

Plus Series : RS2212+, RS2212RP+, RS2211+, RS2211RP+, RS812+, RS812RP+, DS2411+, DS1812+, DS1512+, DS1511+, DS712+, DS412+, DS411+II, DS411+, DS213+, DS212+, DS211+, DS112+

Value Series : RS812, RS212, DS413, DS411, DS213, DS212, DS211, DS112, DS111

J Series : DS413j, DS411j, DS411slim, DS213air, DS212j, DS211j, DS112j

Others : NVR216, NVR1218, DDSM

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You are ignoring the fact that Synology compiles DSM for each piece of hardware.  We have support for the DS918 build via 1.04b and DS3615 via 1.03b.

 

The only requirement for Haswell is the DS918 DSM image as it is compiled with FMA3 instructions.

 

As long as you stay on loader 1.03b and DS3615 DSM you should be able to run 6.2.1 fine.  However, on this loader and 6.2.1, very few network drivers are able to boot - e1000e is the one most are successful with. I think you have a 82576 NIC (you said 82676) which is supported by the igb driver.  You can try it but if the network won't come up, you may need to disable in BIOS and add a e1000e NIC such as an 82571, 82574 or 82579 and it should work.

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5 hours ago, flyride said:

You are ignoring the fact that Synology compiles DSM for each piece of hardware.  We have support for the DS918 build via 1.04b and DS3615 via 1.03b.

 

The only requirement for Haswell is the DS918 DSM image as it is compiled with FMA3 instructions.

 

As long as you stay on loader 1.03b and DS3615 DSM you should be able to run 6.2.1 fine.  However, on this loader and 6.2.1, very few network drivers are able to boot - e1000e is the one most are successful with. I think you have a 82576 NIC (you said 82676) which is supported by the igb driver.  You can try it but if the network won't come up, you may need to disable in BIOS and add a e1000e NIC such as an 82571, 82574 or 82579 and it should work.

 

My apologies for the typo in the network adapter name. I didn't realise 1.03b (currently on this) actually supported it. I guess I'll have to buy an add-in card as the network doesn't come up when I try to boot the 6.2.1 image.

 

I guess I'll try again. Thanks

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On 3/21/2019 at 12:39 AM, flyride said:

You are ignoring the fact that Synology compiles DSM for each piece of hardware.  We have support for the DS918 build via 1.04b and DS3615 via 1.03b.

 

The only requirement for Haswell is the DS918 DSM image as it is compiled with FMA3 instructions.

 

As long as you stay on loader 1.03b and DS3615 DSM you should be able to run 6.2.1 fine.  However, on this loader and 6.2.1, very few network drivers are able to boot - e1000e is the one most are successful with. I think you have a 82576 NIC (you said 82676) which is supported by the igb driver.  You can try it but if the network won't come up, you may need to disable in BIOS and add a e1000e NIC such as an 82571, 82574 or 82579 and it should work.

 

Sorry for the hijack, so it would be unwise to use the 918/1.04b loader with a haswell i3 4150 setup as the synology software may at some point execute an FM3A instruction which the i3 4150 doesn't have?

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