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you actually can boot from SSD (sata connected ssd) because i did that a few years ago with the XPEnoboot

it is not as easy as 1-2-3 and you need a usb stick and a backup/restore program (i used Paragon Hard Disk Manager)

 

don't know if it still works with the new loaders but i will try

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well DSM 6.2 and Jun's loader are giving me a headache

i tried the same method using DSM 5.2 and XPenoboot and it just works, weird

 

for XPenoboot and DSM 5.2

what i did was just install it normally XPenoboot on the USB stick and an empty SSD (in my case a 32GB SSD)

after its installed i turned the machine off and put both the usb stick and the 32GB SSD on my main pc

and used Paragon Hard Disk Manager to backup the partition from the USB stick

then restore the partition and put it on the SSD, so you get:

Partition 1: DSM

Partition 2: DSM

Partition 3: XPenoboot

 

make sure Partition 3 is set to active and just Safely Remove the hardware in windows

and put it on the other pc WITHOUT THE USB STICK!

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@TyphoonNL I think you missed my point:

 

On 8/5/2019 at 12:33 AM, TyphoonNL said:

well DSM 6.2 and Jun's loader are giving me a headache

 

There is a reason why it gives you a headache, it won't work, as the bootloader needs to know the vid/pid of the bootdevice (USB stick).

If you clone your USB to a SATA connected device, your cloned vid/pid info will be wrong, and your system will not boot.

 

So the answer to @Vernon question in post 1.  would be "Yes, but it depends on what DSM version and bootloader you are using".

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it will boot, but it doesn't know the DSM 6.x location

so you need to reinstall it, but it will install it on the SSD, while the bootloader is also on the SSD

 

it doesn't know the location of the DSM 6.x after you put the bootloader on the SSD

pid and vid is only for in the DSM that it doesn't show the usb

in DSM 5.x it doesnt show the SSD as a removable device because the DSM is installed on it ;)

 

if XPenoboot had a 6.x version instead of Jun's bootloader then it could work

it needs MBR table and 1 partition

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On 8/10/2019 at 4:25 PM, TyphoonNL said:

it will boot, but it doesn't know the DSM 6.x location

so you need to reinstall it, but it will install it on the SSD, while the bootloader is also on the SSD

 

it doesn't know the location of the DSM 6.x after you put the bootloader on the SSD

pid and vid is only for in the DSM that it doesn't show the usb

in DSM 5.x it doesnt show the SSD as a removable device because the DSM is installed on it ;)

 

if XPenoboot had a 6.x version instead of Jun's bootloader then it could work

it needs MBR table and 1 partition

do you think this still possible today? or know any other ways to do it?

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@TyphoonNL I think you missed my point:
 
 
There is a reason why it gives you a headache, it won't work, as the bootloader needs to know the vid/pid of the bootdevice (USB stick).
If you clone your USB to a SATA connected device, your cloned vid/pid info will be wrong, and your system will not boot.
 
So the answer to @Vernon question in post 1.  would be "Yes, but it depends on what DSM version and bootloader you are using".

Loader is possible to burn on ssd



On Proxmox you can boot from sata or media device like cd-rom, and Unraid with usb.
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On 7/21/2023 at 4:40 PM, apriliars3 said:


Loader is possible to burn on ssd

 

 

 

 



On Proxmox you can boot from sata or media device like cd-rom, and Unraid with usb.

 

No, this is not what i asked xd

 

I mean to create partitions on the same SSD as the DSM is installed. I just want to know even is the DSM can overwrite that partitios with the boot on any update

On 7/21/2023 at 5:52 AM, dj_nsk said:

use DSM7 and modern bootloaders, and you will be happy

 

No idea what u mean with that, any link to the think i want?

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1 час назад, horvathzeros сказал:

No, this is not what i asked xd

 

I mean to create partitions on the same SSD as the DSM is installed. I just want to know even is the DSM can overwrite that partitios with the boot on any update

 

No idea what u mean with that, any link to the think i want?

before that, it was unclear what exactly you want. No, there is no such option (to place both the bootloader and the DSM data on the same SSD) I do not know - hardly anyone is doing it (flash drives are too cheap now)

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