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Is it possible to boot up from a small internal SSD as opposed to a USB thumb drive?

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you can boot from a USB connected SSD, not from a sata connected ssd

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Sorry for the late reply but thanks for the info. I am still running on a thumb drive and it has been flawless.

 

Thanks again!

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you actually can boot from SSD (sata connected ssd) because i did that a few years ago with the XPEnoboot

it is not as easy as 1-2-3 and you need a usb stick and a backup/restore program (i used Paragon Hard Disk Manager)

 

don't know if it still works with the new loaders but i will try

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i copied the partitions from the usb stick to the ssd and put the ssd in the machine without the usb stick and it boots

no i want the software on my ssd as well, like on my xpenology machine

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well DSM 6.2 and Jun's loader are giving me a headache

i tried the same method using DSM 5.2 and XPenoboot and it just works, weird

 

for XPenoboot and DSM 5.2

what i did was just install it normally XPenoboot on the USB stick and an empty SSD (in my case a 32GB SSD)

after its installed i turned the machine off and put both the usb stick and the 32GB SSD on my main pc

and used Paragon Hard Disk Manager to backup the partition from the USB stick

then restore the partition and put it on the SSD, so you get:

Partition 1: DSM

Partition 2: DSM

Partition 3: XPenoboot

 

make sure Partition 3 is set to active and just Safely Remove the hardware in windows

and put it on the other pc WITHOUT THE USB STICK!

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@TyphoonNL : Maybe a little hint for you:

What VID/PID is your SSD supposed to use after cloning your USB stick?

(assuming you know how Jun's bootloader for DSM 6.x work).

 

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you can't set a vid or pid for the usb, so ignore that part

for some reason my method only works on 5.x

 

EDIT: forgot to say about partition 3, format it in FAT32 and change it to FAT32 with LBA

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@TyphoonNL I think you missed my point:

 

On 8/5/2019 at 12:33 AM, TyphoonNL said:

well DSM 6.2 and Jun's loader are giving me a headache

 

There is a reason why it gives you a headache, it won't work, as the bootloader needs to know the vid/pid of the bootdevice (USB stick).

If you clone your USB to a SATA connected device, your cloned vid/pid info will be wrong, and your system will not boot.

 

So the answer to @Vernon question in post 1.  would be "Yes, but it depends on what DSM version and bootloader you are using".

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it will boot, but it doesn't know the DSM 6.x location

so you need to reinstall it, but it will install it on the SSD, while the bootloader is also on the SSD

 

it doesn't know the location of the DSM 6.x after you put the bootloader on the SSD

pid and vid is only for in the DSM that it doesn't show the usb

in DSM 5.x it doesnt show the SSD as a removable device because the DSM is installed on it ;)

 

if XPenoboot had a 6.x version instead of Jun's bootloader then it could work

it needs MBR table and 1 partition

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