Rayqusa Posted January 25, 2022 Share #126 Posted January 25, 2022 from this topic we could conclude that if we gonna use intel i9 gen 9 that have 16 thread we should using DS3617xs? right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted January 27, 2022 Share #127 Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 5:18 AM, Rayqusa said: from this topic we could conclude that if we gonna use intel i9 gen 9 that have 16 thread we should using DS3617xs? right? beside the fact that i9 9th gen only has 8 cores (+ 8 HT = 16 threads), yes you could use the full potential of the cpu with 3617 neither nvme ssd nor hardware transcoding with 3617, in case of using 918+ you would disable HT and use the 8 cores without HT (~25% of a real core fot a HT thread, so performance of 2 cores, 8 x 0.25, lost in that scenario) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayqusa Posted January 28, 2022 Share #128 Posted January 28, 2022 why buy expensive processor if we only use 75% of their performance🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted January 28, 2022 Share #129 Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Rayqusa said: why buy expensive processor if we only use 75% of their performance depends on how you plan to use it, if transcoding numerous video streams at the same time is involved it might offer more performance with just 8 cores and being able to user intel quick sync, also if normal sata ssd cache is not good enough and you want to use nvme instead then you might end up using 918+ anyway but your decision is not final you can "migrate" to another dsm type by changing the loader and reinstalling dsm and it will keep you settings and packages as of the limitations of the kernel at hand with the loaders (3615, 3617, 918+) its more important to plan the hardware to not waste resources like when planing to have a flash only volume for vm/docker it can't be nvme (ootb) because its not supported at all, even 918+ can use nvme only for cache, not as volume also when planing to user intel qsv for transcoding the cpu selection gets more important because dsm (also 7.0) comes only with a i915 driver from 12/2017 and even with patching the driver there seems to be a limit up to 9th gen and some 10th gen - hopefully that will change when syno releases a successor to the 920+, it might be based on jasper lake or similar and would need a newer i915 driver and as synology uses one 4.4 kernel for all hardware all older units like 918+ will get a new i915 driver too, adding support for newer iGPU's (but its also possible they introduce a new x22/x23 model wit a new 5.x based kernel, then units like 918+ will not get anything new - atm it does not look like syno would use a 5.x kernel, all x22 units so far had 4.4 kernel) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share #130 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rayqusa said: why buy expensive processor if we only use 75% of their performance🙄 7 hours ago, IG-88 said: as of the limitations of the kernel at hand with the loaders (3615, 3617, 918+) its more important to plan the hardware to not waste resources We all need to remember that DSM is built by Synology for specific hardware platforms. The fact that things generally work on a wide variety of hardware is remarkable and a testament to the work that the loader coders have done. It does surprise me that folks want to bring cutting edge and completely divergent hardware to the table (such as NUCs and high-density data center motherboards which are not offered even at the Synology low-end and high-end) and think it's going to be easy to set up. Outside of just making old/spare equipment to work, it would seem that selecting hardware that is close to the desired Syno spec should be a primary objective for a XPe project. The further away from the Syno hardware configurations we diverge, the less likely things will be supported. This can be somewhat mitigated by virtualizing the hardware, which is part of the troubleshooting recommendation in the top post of this thread. For those looking for reference information regarding the "original" hardware, please refer to these threads: https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/13922-guide-to-native-drivers-dsm-617-and-621-on-ds3615/ https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/14127-guide-to-native-drivers-dsm-621-on-ds918/ Edited January 28, 2022 by flyride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domery Posted February 21, 2022 Share #131 Posted February 21, 2022 How is possible to install on my hp dl380 g6? I tryed with different kernel, but i cant found my hardware on my network. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share #132 Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Domery said: How is possible to install on my hp dl380 g6? I tryed with different kernel, but i cant found my hardware on my network. Thanks. Post your question here or here or here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis122 Posted April 19, 2022 Share #133 Posted April 19, 2022 Hi Do you have some experience with he new Redpill Loader DSM 7.1 what is the best model for 1240vs Xeon CPU 4 core 4 Hyperthreading 3622 , 3617 ,3615? Do you think is better Hyprtreading should be disabled for XPE ? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share #134 Posted April 19, 2022 4 hours ago, nemesis122 said: Do you have some experience with he new Redpill Loader DSM 7.1 what is the best model for 1240vs Xeon CPU 4 core 4 Hyperthreading 3622 , 3617 ,3615? Do you think is better Hyprtreading should be disabled for XPE ? My thoughts on DSM 7.x on RedPill, as pertaining to this thread, are here: https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/58662-redpill-loader-information-thread/?tab=comments#comment-270478 With regard to hyperthreading, the only reason to disable hyperthreading is if the platform you are trying to run does not support all your possible threads. Using the example of the E3-1240 (I think that is what you are referring to) there are 8 possible threads - all currently available platforms can handle it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaadstra Posted May 16, 2023 Share #135 Posted May 16, 2023 Is the DS3615xs with 6.2.4-25556 on TCRP 0.4.6 (or current 0.9.4.5) still a valid option? I tried both but both get stuck on error. TCRP 0.9.4.5 might be to new as I had to add a config build block for ds3615xs-6.2.4-25556 into custom_config.json. TCRP 0.4.6 also needs some help (SHA-256 does not match current .pat file) but stops on missing redpill-linux-v3.10.105.ko error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjvelar Posted September 18, 2023 Share #136 Posted September 18, 2023 Hi! I have installed with Jun 1.02b loader DSM 6.1.7-15284 on a Core i3-4130, 2GB RAM simulating a DS3615xs with two volumes: vol. 1 is a 256GB HDD with the DSM and apps, and vol. 2 is a RAID 1 with two 1TB HDD. Is it possible to upgrade to DSM 6.2.4-25556 using manual DSM update within the Update & Restore control panel? Of course keeping vol. 1 and 2 data Thanks and best regards, Jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm71 Posted March 10 Share #137 Posted March 10 Hi, On version 6.2-23739 and the control panel is saying version 6.2.4-25556 is available. So wonder if its safe to let it update? Think using bootloader 1.04 but its been a few years so not entirely sure. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladimirMar Posted May 22 Share #138 Posted May 22 В 18.09.2023 в 17:16, jjvelar сказал: I have installed with Jun 1.02b loader DSM 6.1.7-15284 on a Core i3-4130, 2GB RAM simulating a DS3615xs with two volumes: vol. 1 is a 256GB HDD with the DSM and apps, and vol. 2 is a RAID 1 with two 1TB HDD. Hello. DSM 6.1.7-15284 Update 3 is the last working version of DSM on this bootloader. The described configuration will also pull the ARC bootloader. And with it DSM 7.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som7 Posted July 27 Share #139 Posted July 27 Please help. Can not find any working link for DSM 6.2.3 version for ds3615. Anybody please share if still have it. Want to update from DSM 6.1.4, found 1.03b loader, but no pat file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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