Tone Posted May 14, 2020 Share #1726 Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Hello there, I've been running DSM 6.1.7-15284 for a while thanks to Jun loader 1.02b for over two years with no problems, however I was thinking that it was time to do some update and since Jun's loader for 6.2 has been released for a while so... I encouraged to update the xpenology. I did through the system packager to upgrade to the most recent version pointing to 6.2.2-24922 and reflash the usb with the Jun's loader 1.03b for 3615xs. Following again the tutorial for the migration from 5.2 to 6.0.2 I just configure the grub file matching my mac addresses, pid, vendor and the sn pointing to 1130LWN015135 as states here for 3615xs: https://xpenogen.github.io/serial_generator/index.html I found it through http://find.synology.com/# and prompted the diskstation and click on recovering. When the progress loader began to start, it showed 1% percent to recover the system and suddenly prompted that was in the process to restarting... suspicious. I did again the process to find my synology but this time wasn't unable to find any. There was no ip listed in my router for the xpenology. I repeated this process burning the loader again, plug in, and so on... I don't know if I am missing something... I hope there's nothing corrupted or sort of... anyone that could know what's going on? Edited May 14, 2020 by Tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted May 14, 2020 Share #1727 Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Tone said: I did through the system packager to upgrade to the most recent version pointing to 6.2.2-24922 and reflash the usb with the Jun's loader 1.03b for 3615xs. do you know that 6.2.2 need different drivers, so you need a different extra.lzma on the 2nd partition of the loader? https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/21663-driver-extension-jun-103b104b-for-dsm622-for-3615xs-3617xs-918/ just copy the new extra.lzma to the 2nd partition of the usb replacing the old and you should see you system agin in network and should be able to finish the update any information about you hardware, like cpu, board, nic, storage controller? edit: there is a new 6.2.3 but i'd suggest you finish the update to 6.2.2 first before trying this Edited May 14, 2020 by IG-88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone Posted May 14, 2020 Share #1728 Posted May 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, IG-88 said: do you know that 6.2.2 need different drivers, so you need a different extra.lzma on the 2nd partition of the loader? https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/21663-driver-extension-jun-103b104b-for-dsm622-for-3615xs-3617xs-918/ just copy the new extra.lzma to the 2nd partition of the usb replacing the old and you should see you system agin in network and should be able to finish the update any information about you hardware, like cpu, board, nic, storage controller? edit: there is a new 6.2.3 but i'd suggest you finish the update to 6.2.2 first before trying this Hello and thank you for the quick answer, Yes I read something about the extra.lzma but I thought it was only for cases the NIC wasn't able to be detected at all but now that you mention, it disappears at second boot so I'll try this. Now I'll put the specs of my machine: CPU: AMD Opteron X3216 / 1.6 GHz NIC: Broadcom 5720 And I'd say that's the most relevant, the machine is an HP Proliant Microserver GEN10. You can find more information here: https://cdn.cnetcontent.com/ac/34/ac34857c-5b7d-4bc0-a7b4-e981390c37eb.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted May 14, 2020 Share #1729 Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tone said: , it disappears at second boot i guess it updated the usb from its original kernel 6.2.0 to the installed 6.2.2 and that would result in most drivers to fail on loading, pretty sure the broadcom would fail in this situation and it should be fixed by replacing the extra.lzma, on next boot that would copy the content of the new extra.lzma to disk and load these new modules, system should boot again and finish the update when updating to 6.2.3 you would need to copy the old extra.lzma from jun's original loader 1.03b again to the usb, can be extracted with 7zip (open image.img inside from synoboot.img) i'd suggest removing the usb when 6.2.2 is running, placing the new (or more likely the old from jun's original) extra.lzma on the 2nd partition and after putting it back to the 6.2.2 machine doing the 6..2.3 update in the web gui of dsm, that would copy the new 6.2.3 kernel files to usb and prepare the system for the update on next boot (with the new kernel), if the right extra.lzma is already in place it should flawlessly reboot and do the update when automatically reboting Edited May 14, 2020 by IG-88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone Posted May 14, 2020 Share #1730 Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, IG-88 said: i guess it updated the usb from its original kernel 6.2.0 to the installed 6.2.2 and that would result in most drivers to fail on loading, pretty sure the broadcom would fail in this situation and it should be fixed by replacing the extra.lzma, on next boot that would copy the content of the new extra.lzma to disk and load these new modules, system should boot again and finish the update when updating to 6.2.3 you would need to copy the old extra.lzma from jun's original loader 1.03b again to the usb, can be extracted with 7zip (open image.img inside from synoboot.img) i'd suggest removing the usb when 6.2.2 is running, placing the new (or more likely the old from jun's original) extra.lzma on the 2nd partition and after putting it back to the 6.2.2 machine doing the 6..2.3 update in the web gui of dsm, that would copy the new 6.2.3 kernel files to usb and prepare the system for the update on next boot (with the new kernel), if the right extra.lzma is already in place it should flawlessly reboot and do the update when automatically reboting Thank you very much! Finally worked! It was a very painful process since I cannot edit the bootloader usb directly and I had to make an image of the booteable usb and replace the extra.lzma through osfmounter but anyway... now it's working flawlessly! Thank you again and I will try to update to 6.2.3 althought I cannot see any updates in the upgrade panel... should be do it via manually? Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted May 15, 2020 Share #1731 Posted May 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Tone said: Thank you again and I will try to update to 6.2.3 althought I cannot see any updates in the upgrade panel... should be do it via manually? its from today and it might take some time until all systems get it, you can manually download it and install with "Ext2 Volume Manager" (free version) you can handle both partitons 2nd partition just need to get a drive letter assigned to copy extra.lzma 1st partition can also get a drive letter but to edit grub.cfg, start notepap++ with extended right as administrator and then you can access grub.cfg through the open dialog in notepad++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screege Posted May 20, 2020 Share #1732 Posted May 20, 2020 Hi I have tried every step and it will simply not find my nas, I tried with a brand new machine with 6.1.7 update 3 in 3615 works like a charm, if I try to update to 6.2 with new bootloader it will simply not find my nas, I have a realtek nic attached to my MB it is a brand new I3 processor , I have extracted the images from the links you gave, replace the extra.lmz file and nothing seems to work. Can anyone help me? Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone Posted May 22, 2020 Share #1733 Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 8:47 PM, screege said: Hi I have tried every step and it will simply not find my nas, I tried with a brand new machine with 6.1.7 update 3 in 3615 works like a charm, if I try to update to 6.2 with new bootloader it will simply not find my nas, I have a realtek nic attached to my MB it is a brand new I3 processor , I have extracted the images from the links you gave, replace the extra.lmz file and nothing seems to work. Can anyone help me? Regards Hello there, I don't know if you read my previous post but seems to be a similar problem. I replaced the extra.lzma but only after run the new bootloader and running the wizard to looking for the NAS and restore it. After this you only need to unplug the USB, and running "Ext2 Volume Manager" as @IG-88 stated in the previous post to replace the extra.lzma in the existing bootloader and plug in and boot again and now your NAS should be shown again to continue with the migration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted May 22, 2020 Share #1734 Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 8:47 PM, screege said: Hi I have tried every step and it will simply not find my nas, I tried with a brand new machine with 6.1.7 update 3 in 3615 works like a charm, if I try to update to 6.2 with new bootloader it will simply not find my nas, I have a realtek nic attached to my MB it is a brand new I3 processor , I have extracted the images from the links you gave, replace the extra.lmz file and nothing seems to work. Can anyone help me? you dont give much deail about your hardware (like system board) a guess would be that for 6.2 you need to use CMS/legacy mode, not uefi and you need to boot from the "non uefi" usb device, in some cases you will see that legacy boot device only after rebooting with active csm mode the difference with the loader is documented here https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/13333-tutorialreference-6x-loaders-and-platforms/ also try dsm 6.2.0 or 6.2.3 when not using any different extra.lzma when using 6.2.2 you will need a different extra.lzma as drivers are different for this version, but with dms 6.2.3 it's back to normal an 6.2.2 is obsolete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syno406 Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1735 Posted May 27, 2020 this is a cry for help i updated to 6.2.3-25423 and nothing loaded. somehow the below steps work to get some sort of life on the synology Im able to find it now on synology finder and ping it only if i select reinstall from Juan1.03b loader. I get the option to migrate but when i select the latest package to install it looks like its completing, restarts, but then i cant ping it again until i hit the reinstall from the loader. Ive tried both option to migrate.. Any advice? It cant be that bricked if im getting some sort of life here. The finder shows it to be on 6.2.3-25423 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxdx Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1736 Posted May 28, 2020 boot ufei, network can't be detected. boot legacy, mainboard can't detect boot device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreid23 Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1737 Posted May 29, 2020 22 hours ago, dxdx said: boot ufei, network can't be detected. boot legacy, mainboard can't detect boot device. is your nic on the compatible list?, you booted UEFI and it worked just sounds like you don't have a compatible NIC. What is your NAS specs? You Should prob start here and get your device id by booting into a linux usb and check if ytou have compatible nic and then move on to using extra.lzma once you understand whats going on: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo Fortunov Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1738 Posted May 29, 2020 Hi, I'm trying to setup Synology High Availability storage and have a problem. I'm using loader v1.04b and DSM 6.2.3. I have tweaked the mac and serial number for the second machine in order to have 2 setups in one network. I managed to install and configure the High Availability, but on restart of the passive node it says: error: no such partition Entering rescue mode... and not booting. Do you have any idea what can be the problem and is HA supported on bare metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear-NET Posted July 1, 2020 Share #1739 Posted July 1, 2020 Hi, It's been a while since i used Xpenology, i wanted to run it on my old HP Proliant MicroServer Gen8 again, and i created the USB a i used to - i think.... But i can't get an ip for the server, i've copied the "extra" file into the image, but that don't seem to help.... Does anyone got an idea to what i'm doing wrong ? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huxmut Posted July 8, 2020 Share #1740 Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:23 AM, Bear-NET said: Hi, It's been a while since i used Xpenology, i wanted to run it on my old HP Proliant MicroServer Gen8 again, and i created the USB a i used to - i think.... But i can't get an ip for the server, i've copied the "extra" file into the image, but that don't seem to help.... Does anyone got an idea to what i'm doing wrong ? Thanks... read back a few pages in this thread. the links from IG-88 and flyride will help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickster Posted July 8, 2020 Share #1741 Posted July 8, 2020 I have been trying to upgrade the 1.02b loader to the 1.03b loader (both 3615xs model). Motherboard is a Asus H87i-Plus with an intel G3420 CPU. I have an extra HP NC360T dual port NIC. I think i am doing something wrong with the lagacy boot mode in the bios. I have tried every setting under secure boot and CSM but nu luck. In the uefi boot mode I get tot he screen “happy hacking” but ofcourse no network. Tried several USB drives. No name, Kingston, Transcend an Sandisk. I am sure i did not make mistake with the pid vid. Can somebody help me (with the bios settings?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luchuma Posted July 8, 2020 Share #1742 Posted July 8, 2020 disable internal nic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear-NET Posted July 8, 2020 Share #1743 Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, huxmut said: read back a few pages in this thread. the links from IG-88 and flyride will help you Hi, I'll try that... thanks.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickster Posted July 9, 2020 Share #1744 Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 10:52 PM, luchuma said: disable internal nic? Tried that but does not solve the problem. Think i did something wrong with the USB key. Can select the non UEFI USB key but get an "mbr error 1 press any key to boot from floppy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetaldesai Posted July 17, 2020 Share #1745 Posted July 17, 2020 so sorry all i am new to this but is it possible to install on GA-EP43T_USB3 mobo with C2Q 9650 ? Please advise.. Thanks so much... I apologize if I'm posting on wrong section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIURI Posted July 21, 2020 Share #1746 Posted July 21, 2020 Hello , has anyone experienced the strange behavior that the box shuts down at the same time , but it can also run for days without any issues . This is the problem that i'm facing right now . I'm running DS918+ DSM 6.2.3-25426 .The time is around 22:32 when this happens 🤪 I can't find anything in the logs 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferdytao Posted July 23, 2020 Share #1747 Posted July 23, 2020 Hi everyone, I would kindly ask some help, actually I have XPE working successfully on my Asrock Q1900-ITX, CPU J1900 and NIC RTL8111GR, I suppose I would have some problem to migrate from DSM 6.2-23739 Update 2 to the last 6.2.3, I would also change from DS3615xs to DS918+. I suppose newer kernel would works better, shall I need some extra driver extension? Perhaps is better if I try everything unplugging HDs and use a new USB to boot so I can go back easily, is it right? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterain Posted July 28, 2020 Share #1748 Posted July 28, 2020 Hi, Is there any way to allow 2 PCI-E sata controller on DS3617xs? I did one work perfectly by editing grub.cfg with "set extra_args_3617='DiskIdxMap=1000 SataPortMap=24'". However, when I add another sata controller and change grub.cfg to "DiskIdxMap=100005 SataPortMap=244'", all hard drives on sata controllers are gone. What's the correct expression for this situation? I have 3 drives on the old sata controller and 4 drives on new sata controller. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-88 Posted July 28, 2020 Share #1749 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Masterain said: What's the correct expression for this situation? I have 3 drives on the old sata controller and 4 drives on new sata controller. i'd say just keep the defaults ad only edit vales as needed, so try the original values the loader came with DiskIdxMap=0C SataPortMap=1 Edited July 28, 2020 by IG-88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therus000 Posted July 30, 2020 Share #1750 Posted July 30, 2020 Good day i have board GA-z77x and procossor i5 3470. what loader and system better i choose ? i already try 3617 but synology assistant cant find it help please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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