George Posted February 21, 2018 Share #1 Posted February 21, 2018 Hi guys Just curious. so I download the synology boot img onto a USB stick, which is the boot loader. this then the first time ask me to upload the pat file. Question, how where does it install the pat file if I have multiple drives in the host. I'm going to have the usb thumb drive internal for the boot loader, I'm installing a 128GB M.2 SSD device which I want to use for the XPenology software install, this will also be my Flex Media Server Cache and meta data storage space. And then Installing X large drives, was thinking easiest to make sure it all gets installed on the M.2 SSD is to not install the large drives until XPenology is installed. ? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted February 21, 2018 Share #2 Posted February 21, 2018 That's not how it work. DSM gets installed on all HDDs. That's how you are able to boot your machine if for example a drive crashes or goes bad. It doesn't matter the sequence in which you introduce your HDDs. They will all get DSM installed on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted February 21, 2018 ... If the drives/the Big 4TB drives are physical not in the machine... can not be on there... If the only drive/storage is in the machine at install time is the M.2 SSD then surely it only sits on there. Or will the OS be replicated onto the 4TB when they are installed and the XPenology is started the next time. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted February 21, 2018 Share #4 Posted February 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, George said: ... If the drives/the Big 4TB drives are physical not in the machine... can not be on there... If the only drive/storage is in the machine at install time is the M.2 SSD then surely it only sits on there. Or will the OS be replicated onto the 4TB when they are installed and the XPenology is started the next time. G As soon as you add any HDD's DSM will get installed onto them it's just how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted February 21, 2018 Ok, understand. Thanks G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted February 21, 2018 Question, curious... how big is the XPenology install? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis122 Posted February 21, 2018 Share #7 Posted February 21, 2018 Install Xpenology --> Guide ...and then create the volume1 on the M2 and for Data create the volume2 on your other HDD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis122 Posted February 21, 2018 Share #8 Posted February 21, 2018 In short Install XPE DSM it will be installed on all HDD ! when the Install is done create the fist volume1 on the M2 SSD / install all Apps to volume1/ Create volume2 with your other HDD / create the shares on Volume2 Done you have now what you need describen in your first post. BR Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesis122 Posted February 21, 2018 Share #9 Posted February 21, 2018 Let me know when you need more help in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks Nemesis Having played around a bit, did not see that I had the option to define where I want my apps installed to, this case Volume1 ? Still curious, how big is the XPenology install, how much space does it take up for a OS copy in the first couple of blocks of each drive ? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted February 22, 2018 Share #11 Posted February 22, 2018 1 - Let's use proper DSM terminology. Packages can be installed in any volume you want. When you are about to install a package you will be asked in which volume you want it to be installed. 2 - Space taken by DSM is ~ 4.4GB (2GB + 2.4GB Swap) on each drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted February 22, 2018 Thanks G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted February 23, 2018 Polanskiman. I just clicked on a random package to install it, it went straight into installing it, not asking where to install it, is there a default that I change some where to change the default install location? thanks G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted February 23, 2018 Share #14 Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, George said: Polanskiman. I just clicked on a random package to install it, it went straight into installing it, not asking where to install it, is there a default that I change some where to change the default install location? thanks G Open Package Center, Settings. There is a drop down which allows you to choose the default volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dfds said: Open Package Center, Settings. There is a drop down which allows you to choose the default volume. Must be one of those days for me, but not seeing/finding it, which tab ? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted February 23, 2018 Share #16 Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, George said: Must be one of those days for me, but not seeing/finding it, which tab ? G Click on the Settings button, 1st tab (General) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share #17 Posted February 23, 2018 This is my Package Centre - Settings - General tab... G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfds Posted February 23, 2018 Share #18 Posted February 23, 2018 What version of DSM are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted February 23, 2018 6.1-15047 G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polanskiman Posted February 24, 2018 Share #20 Posted February 24, 2018 That clearly indicates that you only have one volume in your system. If you go to the Storage Manager > Volume I am pretty certain there will be only 1 volume. If you have more than 1 volume it should show something like this: Package Center > Settings > General should show something like this: I would suggest reading what follows for a better understanding of what volumes are and how to create them: https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/StorageManager/volume_diskgroup https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/StorageManager/volume_diskgroup_create_volume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share #21 Posted February 24, 2018 I Polanskiman I would assume, apparently wrong, that the default DSM install location would have counted as a volume (or default install location) and then my /volume1 as a 2nd selectable destination. Will modify my VM a bit and see it at work. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share #22 Posted February 28, 2018 Please check my logic... I'm thinking of leaving package installs on the default volume (spread/stripped/mirrored over all the HDD's), my reason, volume1 that will be on the M.2 SSD will not be protected (single M2.D), I don't mind loosing PLEX cached data, the media meta data, should something go wrong, that can be rebuild, I'd rather put the app installs on the 4GB slice on the beginning of all drives, that way even if a drive fails my package installs (+configs) are safe. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyride Posted February 28, 2018 Share #23 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Again, it doesn't work that way. You can create a volume1 on a new disk group that is mirrored all over the HDD's, but you can't save packages on the system or swap RAIDs. You can't install packages until you create at least a volume1, and that volume will be on a different partition than system/swap. Edited February 28, 2018 by flyride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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