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  1. 3 minutes ago, IG-88 said:

     

    no need to change anything if you dont need the pcie slot and the additional power consumtion (3-5W?) is no concern for you

    dont try to fix anything that is not broken

     

    Thank you. Yes, I always try to find the simplest solution that gives long-term security. I have two machines, but have had some hairy moments (was it 6.0 that worked for a few days and then failed - I did one and figured it was ok and did the other). Hopefully version 7.0 will be manageable going forward.

  2. 7 hours ago, Decebalus said:

     

    Never mind. Already tested it and I can confirm internal NICs are recognized. See here for more details.

     

    Thank you for confirming this. I moved over to the external NIC some time ago now. Wonder if I should move back to this, though know nothing about adding custom izma's. Probably won't risk it now.

  3. 21 minutes ago, Cobblerkid said:

    Not wanting to labour the topic, as I think the info in this thread tells me I "should" be ok to upgrade 6.2.1. But I wouldn't mind a quick opinion on the following please:

     

    I have a Microserver Gen8 with an Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2 fitted, along with 16GB RAM. I've put in a 4 port Intel I350-T4 Ethernet adapter and disabled the on-board NIC's. I use the 1.03b for DSM3615xs loader on bare metal mounted on the internal USB port and currently I am on the 6.2 release. I have no other unusual hardware.

     

    I was previously using DSM3617xs and when I previously tried to upgrade to 6.2.1 I had the same issue as others on this thread with an unresponsive server. Nothing worked until I rebuilt on DSM3615xs.

     

    As I am on now on 1.03b for DSM3615xs, I should be ok to go to 6.2.1 with this hardware? I know there are no guarantees but I'm interested in your opinions.

     

    Thanks

     

    I have the identical hardware EXCEPT for the ethernet card. I can personally vouch for the NC360L and NC364L on the (Gen7) N54L's and an Intel EXPI9402P on the Gen8. I believe they all use the same driver.

     

    I would make a new usb stick and insert a spare hard drive (if you have one) and see if that works. If it doesn't, you can always swop your system back.

     

    Failing that, have a look back over the thread and see what driver is being used. If it tallies with mine or is on the confirmed list, you're probably ok.

     

    Sorry I can't be more help, but I don't have that network card.

  4. 2 minutes ago, BanterBay said:

    Thank you very much Bluemax but I want to put ds918+ my HP Gen8 it is having DS3617xs at the moment. It seems DS918+ is way to upgrade at the moment I think. 

     

    My understanding is the Gen8 doesn't have a modern enough processor to use DS918+ (even with a Xeon). Therefore it will tie us to DS3615XS for as long as it stays operational. Synology made a change to mean it needed an Intel network card. Hopefully nothing else will change and we can at least get security updates going forward.

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  5. 8 minutes ago, BanterBay said:

    Hello folks. Thanks everyone for the amazing support this forum offers. Can someone please help me. I have HP Microserver Gen8, I want to put Jun's latest loader on it. Does this HP NC360T NIC work? Or please tell which network card that works. Thank you very much.

     

    Please see my follow up thread. But to summarise, yes it should work (I've only done on Gen7's so far). You can only use DS3615XS and must disable the on-board NIC. I've been creating a new usb stick and removing the drives (marking order carefully) and using a spare disk to get it up and running first. Realise this is risky and any update may brick the nas from now on. I will probably try with a spare box first.

     

     

  6. And the four port version (HP NC364T) confirmed as working under DSM3615xs. Can't get 3617 to work at all. You do need the shorter bracket if you're looking to buy either one.

     

    I've also got an Intel version of the two port one coming (with longer bracket sadly). Intel EXPI9402PT. Just to see if this gives any benefit for my main server. 

     

    Bit of a minefield, but hope that helps microserver owners. Although, who can say how long this will 'fix' the updates for.

     

     

  7. I've done a ton of research and from my findings, the four port HP NC364T also uses the 82571 chipset like the 360T, so should also work. I've got a couple coming to test and will update the thread. It's so good not to see the system update nag!

  8. 17 minutes ago, cpuks said:

    Ok as a summary - buying HP NC360T for my gen8 should work properly on 1.03b + 6.2u2 and should allow me to upgrade to 6.2.1?

    Wysłane z mojego ONEPLUS A6003 przy użyciu Tapatalka
     

     

    Well, that was on a gen7, but I can't see why it wouldn't work on a gen8. I can only say it worked on mine. I was able to update to the latest DSM. 

    I'd suggest making another usb stick and removing your hard drives (and marking to keep the order). Then add a spare one and test the hardware first. 

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  9. - Outcome of the installation/update: SUCCESSFUL

    - DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2-23729 (fresh install)

    - Loader version and model: Jun's Loader v1.03b - DS3615xs

    - Using custom extra.lzma: NO

    - Installation type: BAREMETAL - N54L DS3615XS with HP NC360T card

    - Additional comments: Built-in NIC disabled. I couldn't get DS3617SX to work.

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  10. Indeed. But it was a minimal investment and was worth the attempt. I am running the DS3617XS, so that might make a difference, but was unable to switch for some reason. Maybe I should have removed the card and activated the onboard nic, but it's all further work for little real gain.

     

    I suppose the next big push with be for DSM 7, so will be resigned to sticking to 6.2. If it goes beyond, it will be a bonus anyway.

  11. On 1/10/2019 at 10:08 PM, flyride said:

    8086.105E is the Intel PRO/1000 PT card, which is supported by the "e1000" driver set.  This is different than the "e1000e" which is the only one that appears to work on 1.03b/DS3615/6.2.1

     

    I think the problem is that there are many posts to "buy [any] Intel NIC" not considering the above.

     

    Acquire and use an e1000e card (i.e. 82574L-based card) and you should be good.  If you look at the Update Reporting threads you will see many have done this ahead of you.

     

    I actually did buy the HP NC360T nic on the strength of this post...

     

    (his signature shows...) Config 1 BAREMETAL: HP G7 N54L Amd Turion Néo II + 4 Go + 1x HD 1,8To (OS + packages) + 3x HD 2,7 To (DATA) + HP NC360T PCI Express Dual Port Gigabit Server Adapter - Internal NIC disabled - xpenology 1.03b DS 3615 XS DSM 6.2.1-23824 Update 4 - EATON USB 650 with server NUT on Raspberry 3 (stretch)

     

    On 1/3/2019 at 4:28 PM, zoulou13 said:

    - Outcome of the update:  SUCCESSFUL

    - DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2.1-23824 update 2

    - Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.03b - DS3615xs

    - Using custom extra.lzma: NO

    - Installation type: BAREMETAL -  HP G7 N54L  

    - Additional comments: restart + shutdown + WOL OK

     

    - Outcome of the update:  SUCCESSFUL

    - DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2.1-23824 update 2

    - Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.03b - DS3615xs

    - Using custom extra.lzma: NO

    - Installation type: VM -  ESXI 6.5 

    - Additional comments: restart and shutdown don't work (same problem with DSM 6.2.1-23824 update 1 and update 2)

  12. 7 minutes ago, flyride said:

    8086.105E is the Intel PRO/1000 PT card, which is supported by the "e1000" driver set.  This is different than the "e1000e" which is the only one that appears to work on 1.03b/DS3615/6.2.1

     

    I think the problem is that there are many posts to "buy [any] Intel NIC" not considering the above.

     

    Acquire and use an e1000e card (i.e. 82574L-based card) and you should be good.  If you look at the Update Reporting threads you will see many have done this ahead of you.

     

    Thank you once again. I have only really been looking at the Microserver updates, but maybe I should broaden my reading to include any. Is there a resource that shows what cards are based on 82574L? 

  13. I had to use the command lspci -tv to see. I have a 105E, which is not on the list for the 918+, but I'm not using that.

    This is an HP NC360T card.

     

    I've had no luck installing DS3615XS. It shows as migrate, but gives a 169 IP address and won't have anything to do with it.

     

    I've rather given up for now. Cost me at least a day's work too.

  14. 5 minutes ago, nelss said:

     Hi,

     

    i disable internal nic on the bios.

     

    OK, then I wonder if it is the DS3615xs being more compatible?

    I'm using that network card and not having any luck either on a gen7. And haven't been able to install the 3615 either. 

  15. 3 minutes ago, bearcat said:

     

    Did you edit your grub.cfg to reflect the changes made by adding the new card?

    MAC1 = eth0 = LAN1 in DSM.

    When you add a new nic, it will become eth0, pushing the builtin "up" and inherit MAC1 from grub.cfg (that might be in use on the builtin nic)

    I noticed this self, by having 2 nics, using the same MAC and claiming the same IP from my router.

     

    Well, in DSM it showed as 1, 2 & 3. But I have disabled the on-board NIC to stop it trying to use it. And bonded my two ports as one. 

     

    I threw a blank disk into my 6.2 U2 setup and then booted up from that to make a clean 6.2 U2 setup. That worked fine, but when I updated to 6.2.1, it didn't even try to read the disk. I put my old usb stick in and  it booted as 6.2, so it obviously writes something to the usb stick. I'm going to try to update with the stick removed and see if that helps the situation. But it's not looking promising unfortunately.

  16. 10 hours ago, flyride said:

     

    You need the "right" NIC.  Here are the device ID's of the Intel NICs that are presently supported on DS918 6.2.1:

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    At the risk of sounding stupid, what do those numbers refer to please? And how to find a device ID? Is it a PC thing (I'm on a mac) perhaps?

  17. On 12/24/2018 at 7:15 PM, nelss said:

    - Outcome of the installation/update: UNSUCCESSFUL

    - DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2-23739 Update 2

    - Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.03b - DS3617xs

    - Using custom extra.lzma: NO

    - Installation type: Baremetal - HP Microserver GEN 8

    - Additional comments: with internal nic and hP NC360T

     

    On 10/14/2018 at 4:12 PM, Yesluv said:

    - Outcome of the installation/update: SUCCESSFUL

    - DSM version prior update: DSM 6.2-23739 Update 2

    - Loader version and model: JUN'S LOADER v1.03b - DS3615xs

    - Using custom extra.lzma: NO

    - Installation type: BAREMETAL - HP Microserver GEN 8 

    - Additional comments: On-board NIC no longer works after this update. Had to throw in a 4-port PCIe NIC (Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection) 

     

    Conflicting results. I'm not sure if it's the NIC. Maybe nelss didn't disable the on-board nic? 

  18. No, but I think 1.04b loader and 918+ are linked.

     

    This is what I based my understanding on:

    This is an INTERMEDIATE update of DSM.

    BE CAUTIOUS WHEN UPDATING TO DSM 6.2.1 with Jun's loader 1.03a2 or  1.03b or earlier.

    You may brick your box because of a change in the kernel config that breaks all non official PCIe devices drivers. This has been confirmed by Jun.

     

    So, upgrading the network card may be all that is required (for now!).

     

  19. 8 minutes ago, WiteWulf said:

    Ah, I was under the impression it was a CPU architecture incompatibility, rather than just a NIC driver thing. Does the 1.04b loader simply lack the drivers for the Broadcom NIC in the HP servers, then?

     

    (I only just updated to 6.2 from 6.1.7 yesterday, so am playing catch up here)

     

    Well, it is clear the new bootloader 1.04b (I think) which is based on the 918+, uses newer cpu's than are on the microservers (even the xeon).

     

    But I understood the only thing holding back an update to 6.2.1 for us using 1.03b/DS36xxSX, was the requirement for an Intel based NIC. I believe that's correct anyway.

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  20. Well, adding an Intel nic is only about £10-15, so a worthwhile investment if it prolongs the lifespan. But I'm hoping this will be the case. We need to hear the pros and cons of course from someone who has actually done it and has a better overview of the situation.

     

    The beauty of the microservers, was that there were many of them in the field and it wasn't too difficult to find someone else who had the same setup. Therefore not too much of a risk updating.

     

    If people just stick at 6.2, it will be more risky in future. Though I've been burnt chasing the latest and greatest before! Only just upgraded from 5.2 after that experience!

  21. Hi all and just looking for some clarification on how best to proceed please.

     

    I have N54L's (stock) and a Gen 8 (xeon E3 1265L v2). All running 6.2 update 2 with 1.03b and DS3617XS successfully.

     

    I realise that this is the end of the road unless I add a PCIE network card using Intel chipset and ordered an HP NC360T (dual gig), which came today.

     

    I have installed it in an N54L and it works perfectly. I'm able to log into DSM via the original on-board and have changed the network setting on the NC360T to suit my network and am also able to login to DSM via that.

     

    So, my next step is to attempt to move to the current version.

     

    I"m guessing I can't just update via DSM? 

     

    DSM seems to insist I use the on-board lan port first, no matter what I change (even now it is called port 3), so I assume my only choice is to disable it via the bootloader.

     

    Interestingly, one of the ports on the new card shows the same mac address as the on-board one. I guess I'll have to figure out what it actually is?

     

    So, disable the on-board nic, create a new usb stick with the amended mac address, and load 6.2.1 and apply all the updates via DSM?

     

    Is this a plan or are there any gotcha's?

     

    Thanks for any advice before I bite the bullet. It's a backup machine, so not the end of the world if it goes pear-shaped.

  22. 3 hours ago, haydibe said:

    Ikea of computing 🤣

     

    Actually, the fans spin quite slow and are barely noticable. If you WANT you can add more. You don't have to. I must admit I want my WD Red hard disks properly cooled.

    Also the harddisks are the main source of noise. Especialy when beeing accessed. Unless you don't go full SSD (Samsung PM1643 for instance) or NVME, that's something you have to live with.

     

     

    Those SSD's are insane!!!!! I want!

    I've got an Intel network card coming for a tenner, so I'll just enjoy being as up-to-date as I can for now. I think the 918+ is a consumer product, so probably wouldn't make the most of my Xeon E3 processor? Hopefully we'll be alright for a while yet.